Essential knots?

Take the standing part in the left hand and the bitter end in the right.
Ensure there is sufficient rope between left and right hands to form the loop.
Move the right hand about one foot back from the bitter end.
Now lay the rope in your right hand over the rope in your left hand at about 90 degrees to each other.
Now with the right hand, twist the rope in the left hand so it forms a loop with the bitter end popping up through the loop (This is the rabbit hole and the rabbit popping out.)
Now take the bitter end around the standing part (The tree) and back through the loop (Rabbit hole)
Pull up tight and the bowline is complete..

Hope that makes sense.

It makes sense to me because I already know how to do it - but I bet it would be difficult to follow for someone who doesn't :)

As I said, easy to demonstrate, difficult to explain in words. The knot book that my granny gave me when I was ten had a series of rapidly-taken photos to show the motion.

Pete
 
My Wife won't mind, the front room is currently full of fenders that I've been polishing...!

Sounds like your wife is an angel! In your situation I wouldn't be at all surprised to find the wife had added a few extra bits to the pile of fenders whilst you're in the polishing mood. If you tie a bit of rope to the towel rail every day, do you pass the course if it's still attached next day? I have a piece of cotton practice rope at home that came from a seller called "Bound to Please"...

Rob.
 
The "Quick Bowline" (for a right handed person):
Take the standing part in the left hand and the bitter end in the right.
Ensure there is sufficient rope between left and right hands to form the loop.
Move the right hand about one foot back from the bitter end.
Now lay the rope in your right hand over the rope in your left hand at about 90 degrees to each other.
Now with the right hand, twist the rope in the left hand so it forms a loop with the bitter end popping up through the loop (This is the rabbit hole and the rabbit popping out.)
Now take the bitter end around the standing part (The tree) and back through the loop (Rabbit hole)
Pull up tight and the bowline is complete..

Hope that makes sense.

Paul

Doesn't make sense when you are tying the bowline one handed, as you should be able to do.;)

prv's method in post 19 is ideal for one handed tying.
 
Those "methodes" above are presented everywhere, but they look like 'following the picture of knot' instead of tying it. Seems though that the easy way of tying the bowline got forgotten :confused:

I'm lacking the english names here but may try - and please somebody help:
first lay your hand on the standing part of line and twist to cross it - forming this first loop called "rabbit hole" here, but so that it forms around the hand or wrist;
with fingers take the standing part and pull through the "rabbit hole", in fact this looks like shaking the line off the hand. Don't tighten the resulting knot.
( - Now this a loop of line taken through 'hole' is actually the knot used to attach tackle hook (or whatever) to pull on the line when ends are inaccessible, or to attach this line to the post etc; but I have no English name for it, thence this long description; somebody could give the name, please? )

Now the bitter end is passed through this loop (a sufficiently long bit of it) and the line (standing part) is pulled - loop made is pulled back through, taking the bitter end with it, and voila - bowline is formed.

All this takes a fraction of a second, just a twist of hand and stick the bitter end in - then any pull on the line will make the bowline, for instance when this is mooring line thrown on a bollard.
Direction of twistind the hand might be important, as the knot may be made in both directions. It holds in both ways, but texbooks always show one way, so I presume the other is "wrong" :)
This is a method I learned almost 40 years ago as the right way, even was in some books then, but never saw it since... :confused:
 
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The classic list of eight is more than you'll ever need probably. Try and get the bowline as quick and instinctive as possible and do make sure you're tying it correctly. You should be able to get the right size of loop and the right amount of tail (which should be parallel to the standing part). A lot of people put the tail around the standing part in a half-hitch to make sure the bowline doesn't collapse.

Make sure you know when and where to use them as well - don't use a clove-hitch on something that can rotate, for example, or it'll simply unwind. Make sure you know any tricks as to how to undo them - bowline, sheet bend and reef knot especially. Throw in an eye-splice and you're practically yacht-master...
 
Now the bitter end is passed through this loop (a sufficiently long bit of it) and the line (standing part) is pulled - loop made is pulled back through, taking the bitter end with it, and voila - bowline is formed.

Yep, I know of this method too - though it's not one that I tend to use. I guess my equivalent for tying round something is to bring the end back from the post, make a half-hitch around the standing part, then tug on the end. This capsizes the half-hitch into the classic "hole and tree", just needing the end passed through.

Your way's probably slightly quicker.

Pete
 
What about the reef knot, I read somewhere that it isn't used much as it can come out, what would you use instead? I've never had to reef, just use mizzen and jib ;)
 
:)

Well how many knots do you need to know!

Might I also suggest that its very important to know when its necessary to use them; although its allways an emotive point amoungst Yachties and Pureists vers Practicals!

I'd suggest that when comming alongside or berthing the most important objective is to 'secure up' the boat so that you can then go about 'doing the right thing' with the right Knots, with a view to leaving the boat securely tied up with Bowlines or Hitches as a personal preference.

When comming alongside getting a rope / line around a bollard / cleat / post etc is parramount; a few 'turns' around the item will secure your boat whilst you set about setting your Bowlines and Hitches as a secondary procedure.

The thought of someone spending time making a Bowline around a Post etc while the boat is unsecured is quite frightening, i'd suggest a bit of 'lateral' thinking here is required; secure first with a couple of turns
 
Yes, thank you, I do tend to do the frantic "wrap the rope around any old how" thing first before securing with various granny knots etc! just hoping to improve on that really :D

I didn't realise knots would be an emotive subject, but probably should've done, I remember my anchor rode thread which raged on for several pages!
One thing I'm not going to do is ask what the best anchor is... ;)
 
What about the reef knot, I read somewhere that it isn't used much as it can come out, what would you use instead? I've never had to reef, just use mizzen and jib ;)

I use a reef knot for reefing - actually usually a slipped version (half a bow). Also for sail ties if they don't have a loop in one end, and last Sunday for tying up the bundle of old mainsail so I could carry it up to the car. Basically anything that needs bundling up and tying - a reef knot isn't going to pull out in that kind of use.

If I needed to do the same thing under higher loads ("what would you use instead?") I'd put a bowline in one end, then put the other end through the bowline and half hitch it back to itself.

Pete
 
What about the reef knot, I read somewhere that it isn't used much as it can come out, what would you use instead? I've never had to reef, just use mizzen and jib ;)
Also use reef knot. On slippery synthetic it can be secured by putting half-hitches behind.
Or the version used for slippery: Surgeon's ;) http://www.troop471riomedina.org/surgeons_reef_knot.gif
But then for slippery lines there are "parallel knots" (however called in English), good to know and nothing to learn. For joining two similar ropes 8-knot is nice: you make figure 8 knot on first line, loosely, and reeve the second line through it in opposite direction, following the first line; important that it lies parallel to first, not to cross them. This holds on slippery ropes, fishing line included; will not injure the rope or slip, retains most of strength and can be undone easily.

Another secure way for joining two slippery lines and easy - this can be used for joining steel rigging lines, so nice to remember :) - Fisherman's http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn20/s9mbilan/fishermansknot.jpg When line is slippery, like fishing line - also may be secured with additional half-hithes, after pulling together.
 
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Those "methodes" above are presented everywhere, but they look like 'following the picture of knot' instead of tying it. Seems though that the easy way of tying the bowline got forgotten :confused:

I'm lacking the english names here but may try - and please somebody help:
first lay your hand on the standing part of line and twist to cross it - forming this first loop called "rabbit hole" here, but so that it forms around the hand or wrist;
with fingers take the standing part and pull through the "rabbit hole", in fact this looks like shaking the line off the hand. Don't tighten the resulting knot.
( - Now this a loop of line taken through 'hole' is actually the knot used to attach tackle hook (or whatever) to pull on the line when ends are inaccessible, or to attach this line to the post etc; but I have no English name for it, thence this long description; somebody could give the name, please? )

Now the bitter end is passed through this loop (a sufficiently long bit of it) and the line (standing part) is pulled - loop made is pulled back through, taking the bitter end with it, and voila - bowline is formed.

All this takes a fraction of a second, just a twist of hand and stick the bitter end in - then any pull on the line will make the bowline, for instance when this is mooring line thrown on a bollard.
Direction of twistind the hand might be important, as the knot may be made in both directions. It holds in both ways, but texbooks always show one way, so I presume the other is "wrong" :)
This is a method I learned almost 40 years ago as the right way, even was in some books then, but never saw it since... :confused:

Like this - almost the same way as I learnt to do it as a kid
http://www.animatedknots.com/bowlin...ge=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com
The video
 
:) Not the one; it's rather what was described before. One-handed method; we also teach it here, I always add to it "never use when you're man-over-board" ;)
He is passing the bitter end through and around the standing part here - I was talking about taking the standing part through the loop to make a knot ("hooking knot" could be called) which is then inserted with bitter end. Then standing part is pulled "back" from this knot and it takes the bitter end with it making the bowline, automatically so to speak. Found a picture of this knot - here it's used to secure another line to, but shows the principle (animated): http://www.przewodnikzeglarski.pl/wezel-rozkowy.html
 
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