Fr J Hackett
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What we need is some clever sod to resurrect Haydens exploding bog thread.
Electric toilets
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Wansworth
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That’s what we used on the trawlers…..powerful stuff
Boathook
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Ignore the toilet as a manual one is cheap and fairly easy to install.
Need to worry about the rig, sails, hull and engine.
Need to worry about the rig, sails, hull and engine.
Wansworth
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Yes your quite right…..Iworry about inaccessible fuel tanks and everything inaccessible
vyv_cox
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I flushed through with HCl almost weekly, bringing short term improvement. The problem is that salts in the upward leg of the loop tend to gravitate downwards and settle in the valve.
Bouba
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Boats are made in two parts...the hull and the liner....before they put in the liner, they put in everything that you might want to one day access and then...like a Pharoh’s tomb...seal it in forever. This, I have since found out...is purely done...to piss me offNeed to speak to @Bouba about inaccessible items, especially fuel tanks
Fr J Hackett
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And to provide a few of us with a modicum of entertainment.Boats are made in two parts...the hull and the liner....before they put in the liner, they put in everything that you might want to one day access and then...like a Pharoh’s tomb...seal it in forever. This, I have since found out...is purely done...to piss me off
Wansworth
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Boubations…….come across that ,fuel tanks which use part of the hull and have zilch access except via the filler cap and the seller says he has ever had any problems and that in a40 year old boatBoats are made in two parts...the hull and the liner....before they put in the liner, they put in everything that you might want to one day access and then...like a Pharoh’s tomb...seal it in forever. This, I have since found out...is purely done...to piss me off
Bouba
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I agree....it should never become an issue. But sometimes new things break when they shouldn’t. And having the foresight to provide access in case of a problem is good design.Boubations…….come across that ,fuel tanks which use part of the hull and have zilch access except via the filler cap and the seller says he has ever had any problems and that in a40 year old boat
But toilet hoses aren’t among those things that should last forty years
Sea Change
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I'm a bit sceptical of electric toilets, although most of our friends seem to have them and they don't seem to cause problems.
We're actually thinking of electrifying one of our heads. We have Lavacs so am electric pump can just sit in series with the manual pump. Other than the cost to install, I don't think there are any downsides.
This upgrade is primarily driven by the fact that our youngest crew member thinks that two pumps is quite sufficient, despite repeated reminders. An electric pump with say a 20s timer would solve a lot of problems.
We're actually thinking of electrifying one of our heads. We have Lavacs so am electric pump can just sit in series with the manual pump. Other than the cost to install, I don't think there are any downsides.
This upgrade is primarily driven by the fact that our youngest crew member thinks that two pumps is quite sufficient, despite repeated reminders. An electric pump with say a 20s timer would solve a lot of problems.
Bouba
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If I was modifying my boat toilet (and it is in my one day master plan)... I would have a larger toilet bowl....I’m tired of splash back
....and fresh water flush.But definitely would stay with electric....they are noisy and fragile....but so much nicer than pumping by hand
sailoppopotamus
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My boat came with a TMC electric head fitted by the previous owner and I find it to be a major quality-of-life improvement over the manual system. I had to replace the undersized wiring installed by the previous owner, but other than that I've had no problems in four years. It is admittedly rather noisy, but not having to pump in the med heat more than makes up for it. As a bonus, it's much more intuitive to operate for my non-sailor friends. I don't have a holding tank and flush with sea water, so limiting water usage is not a concern. Quite the opposite, I actively encourage guests to run it generously.
Some have cited energy usage as I concern. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I don't see it as a big issue. Sure, the thing draws a few amps, but 6 (people) x (8 flushes a day) x (10 seconds per flush) x (10A) = 1.5Ah/day, which is a drop in the bucket in the grander scheme of my energy consumption.
It has crossed my mind to replace it with a more quiet unit, but there's no way I'm switching to a manual model.
Some have cited energy usage as I concern. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I don't see it as a big issue. Sure, the thing draws a few amps, but 6 (people) x (8 flushes a day) x (10 seconds per flush) x (10A) = 1.5Ah/day, which is a drop in the bucket in the grander scheme of my energy consumption.
It has crossed my mind to replace it with a more quiet unit, but there's no way I'm switching to a manual model.
colind3782
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We have electric and, although I have changed the pump a couple of times when I thought it was burnt out, I hadn't allowed for voltage drop! Since upgrading the wiring we have had no problems. We can't fit a manual pump as the space is too small. The electric pump is tucked in behind the bowl but the manual pumps stick out the side too much and moving everything around would involve too much major surgery.
LittleSister
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Mrs. W might well appreciate it.
Bouba
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The important thing to remember is that a generic pump is considerably cheaper than the name brands
sailoppopotamus
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Cable size is crucial! Mine would get stuck after not being used for a long time, and I'd have to turn it by hand using a screw driver at the beginning of every season. After replacing the 1.5mm^2 wire (horror!) with 6mm^2 this was never a problem again.
Hoist
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Installed a Jabsco lite on our last boat.
It was seriously noisy. I am talking kitchen blender levels of noise.
Which is absolutely wonderful when somebody trys for a sneaky pee in the middle of the night
It broke the belt 3 time's in a season
Got jammed up once when a small piece of plastic managed to fall in it. Not it's fault but it came out soon after.
Even if I won the euromillions, and ordered a brand new boat I would have a normal manual jabsco
It was seriously noisy. I am talking kitchen blender levels of noise.
Which is absolutely wonderful when somebody trys for a sneaky pee in the middle of the night
It broke the belt 3 time's in a season
Got jammed up once when a small piece of plastic managed to fall in it. Not it's fault but it came out soon after.
Even if I won the euromillions, and ordered a brand new boat I would have a normal manual jabsco
vyv_cox
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Maybe something wrong with installation? We had ours for at least 10 years. Not especially noisy but definitely far from silent. Never broke a belt. The original plastic gears lasted its whole life. It was the salt deposition that killed it for me.
Sea Change
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The choice isn't between manual and electric Jabscos. Other designs are available!
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