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my new boat has got EDC controls and I have never used these will they behave a lot different to the throttles on my s37 which were obviously cable

also will the handling of a shaft drive be a lot different to the outdrive when berthing and in close quarter maneuvers which is the easier to use
 
EDC is lovely.. Snick snick with your fingertips, you'll never want cable again! You may find a slightly longer delay when engaging gear, but you'll very soon get used to it and anticipate the (very) slight delay.

Yes, shafts handle differently. Having owned both outdrive and shaft boats, shaft is much better. You will have to employ a different technique to use them, but generally you dont have to do all the crazy lock to lock steering nonsense when in astern!

Both EDC and shafts are a good thing - you will enjoy!!! :)
 
Once you've got used to the slight delay ( approx 2 sec ) it's easy. As for shafts, you'll not go back, and at close Quarters it's all all about the levers and not the wheel. ( hope the new boat makes you as happy as an s43 ... If know what I'm saying)
 
lanerboy said:
my new boat has got EDC controls and I have never used these will they behave a lot different to the throttles on my s37 which were obviously cable

also will the handling of a shaft drive be a lot different to the outdrive when berthing and in close quarter maneuvers which is the easier to use
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Yes! But the last time I gave you advice you went somewhere else. So....... Listen to the "experts" on here. You had a good handover then! Did they explain how to turn the EDC on or switch from the lower to upper helm and vice versa? EDC is an electronic switch. First click is in gear, tick over! Push through and you will accelerate. It is all about clicking! Very easy when you know how. You will use the helm in close quarters but for different reasons against your stern drives.

I did a course with Timothy Spall this week, he who helms a 16 metre barge around the UK, he was amazed at how a twin shaft boat turned .


The Phantom 40 is a great boat.
 
Solitaire said:
Yes! But the last time I gave you advice you went somewhere else. So....... Listen to the "experts" on here. You had a good handover then! Did they explain how to turn the EDC on or switch from the lower to upper helm and vice versa? EDC is an electronic switch. First click is in gear, tick over! Push through and you will accelerate. It is all about clicking! Very easy when you know how. You will use the helm in close quarters but for different reasons against your stern drives.

I did a course with Timothy Spall this week, he who helms a 16 metre barge around the UK, he was amazed at how a twin shaft boat turned .


The Phantom 40 is a great boat.
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David, there has been no handover yet, its the sea trial and survey on Thursday, I will be checking the engines over and the rest of the boat. I will be showing shawn how the Volvo side of things work as its all new to him, I'm sure he will get the feel of the newer shift system quite quickly. Remember shawn came into boating exactly 12 months ago and already he is on his second boat, he started boating straight to the sea with no qualifications at all, no real experience. We all can learn a great deal from this forum, even the experts can learn from the novices mostly to do with customer satisfaction.
 
lanerboy said:
my new boat has got EDC controls and I have never used these will they behave a lot different to the throttles on my s37 which were obviously cable

also will the handling of a shaft drive be a lot different to the outdrive when berthing and in close quarter maneuvers which is the easier to use
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Shawn, my Snazi has ZF controls, which sound similar to your EDC's. Much easier to use than the cable controls. Very light, just pop them in and out of gear to steer and control. The shaft props feel more responsive than the drives, but it is not an alien transition, so you soon build confidence. At low speed, forget the rudders, as they have little affect, just use the port and starboard engines as needed. You will quickly get the hang of it.
 
volvopaul said:
mostly to do with customer satisfaction.
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Absolutely! I can only quote my customer satisfaction.
" Hi David
Good to meet you yesterday.
Tim Spall thoroughly recommended you, so it was clearly a good day!"

The respondent has Phantom 40 not far from Ocean Quay and has booked me for a Day Skipper. Word of Mouth is the best form of promotion.
 
Solitaire said:
Yes! But the last time I gave you advice you went somewhere else. So....... Listen to the "experts" on here. You had a good handover then! Did they explain how to turn the EDC on or switch from the lower to upper helm and vice versa? EDC is an electronic switch. First click is in gear, tick over! Push through and you will accelerate. It is all about clicking! Very easy when you know how. You will use the helm in close quarters but for different reasons against your stern drives.

I did a course with Timothy Spall this week, he who helms a 16 metre barge around the UK, he was amazed at how a twin shaft boat turned .


The Phantom 40 is a great boat.
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As paul states I have not even had the hand over yet I am just wondering about stuff as like paul said I am still new to this !!!!!!!!!

you seem a very bitter and twisted man if you want the truth I never used you because I didn't like your attitude and I had heard others say the same so I used john mendez company instead and I was very satisfied with them Julie was fantastic and I have since had more lessons with another tutor who I would use again

if you also remember I asked on here about buying fenders and YOU SENT ME a pm saying you could do me a great deal!!!!!!! well it wasn't though was it david it was bloody expensive and when I never purchased from you and bought from another supplier you again got the ar5e

I would be gratefull if you kept out of my posts in future and I will do the same with yours,I don't like your attitude david so keep your opinions to yourself
 
Having had a go with electrickery throttles, I didn't really like the delay but can appreciate it protects the gearboxes from oafs with ten thumbs; IIRC the delay can be adjusted, or at least it could on the levers I had a go on(can't remember what the make was, but they were attached to a pair of Cummins QSBs; do Cummins do their own sticks?).
 
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Hi Lanerboy,

The EDC's are a little quirky but I do love them now I have got used to them. Go on the volvo website and download the manual for the engines in the boat. It will have all the info on the EDC's and service items for the engines. Great reference to have at all times anyway.

When you get the boat, sit down with the manual again in front of the controls and go through the procedures. I am sure VP will do all this with you as he said above but having read and familiiarised yourself from the book will definitely help you.

Good luck, shafts do require a bit of confidence to get the best of them when close quartering but are easy when you have practiced and got the skills together.

rgds
JD
 
Two years ago I went from a 42 foot Sea Ray with Cats and cable throttles to a 51 foot Sea Ray with Volvos and EDC, and to be honest, upart from the much lighter touch required, really did not notice a great difference.

I have never noticed the talked about delay, I think the EDC controls are great.

Graham
 
Compared to my old cable throttle , I dont like the delay when going into and out of gear, I reckon its about half to one second, but you do get used to it, so its not a big deal. I also dont like the fact there is no 'manual' safety button/trigger that you have to press to move into gear, it seems to me that you could easily knock the throttle into gear without meaning to if you caught it with your elbow/boat hook etc, not to mention the kids just whacking it forwards.

I do like the smoothness of the change into gear though, and the lack of a long run of throttle cable should mean less maintenance in theory.
 
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I have had edc for 8 years. Never once noticed a delay. Equally never had old cable ones. Maybe I am not in a hurry!

If you want a touch of power just put it to the first click and straight back. No need to wait it will just engage and disengage for a moment which is useful when parking.

They are great. Do make sure the manual is on board as all faults are flashed up using a series of led flashes.

Shafts. Not a clue. I am the lock to lock stern drive brigade. I would like to know how you move the back of the boat over when reversing on shafts as the rudders as far as I know don't work in reverse / when going slowly.

I don't know if you have kids. I you do I can tel you how to fit an on demand tv system through the whole boat for less than £50o. Our kids love it. Mum and dad like it too

Enjoy.
 
jrudge said:
I have had edc for 8 years. Never once noticed a delay. Equally never had old cable ones. Maybe I am not in a hurry!

If you want a touch of power just put it to the first click and straight back. No need to wait it will just engage and disengage for a moment which is useful when parking.

They are great. Do make sure the manual is on board as all faults are flashed up using a series of led flashes.

Shafts. Not a clue. I am the lock to lock stern drive brigade. I would like to know how you move the back of the boat over when reversing on shafts as the rudders as far as I know don't work in reverse / when going slowly.

I don't know if you have kids. I you do I can tel you how to fit an on demand tv system through the whole boat for less than £50o. Our kids love it. Mum and dad like it too

Enjoy.
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with shafts you just don't bother with the wheel generally, as you have so much more prop wash and a much greater turning motion as the props are further forward. So a tick forward of the port engine kicks the stern to port, markedly so. When going astern if you want to "steer" to port you give a kick of the stb engine.

The reason so many people think stern drive boats are more difficicult is they try and drive it like shafts and don't touch the wheel. Clearly you drive it properly :)
 
jrudge said:
I don't know if you have kids. I you do I can tel you how to fit an on demand tv system through the whole boat for less than £50o. Our kids love it. Mum and dad like it too

Enjoy.
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I'd be interested in this, so can you enlighten me, please? PM me if you prefer.

Cheers, Allan
 
powerskipper said:
Have fun with her if you get her, you will love the way they handle.
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thanks Julie I am sure I will I have had a great time on the s37 and put everything you taught me into practise and have had an amazing summer

just hope its not too different to the outdrive boat but I will be having a day with Ben Barris from Weymouth do you know him????
 
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