DRUNK BOATING FINE

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what worries me about all these sort of stories is that we don't actually know if the drinking had anything to do with what happened. He might also have been wearinig red socks and aftershave, but no one blames these for the events. Neither does anyone blame sobriety for accidents - even though most accidents are caused whilst the parties are sober. But the popular logic is simply 'he had been drinking, so that was it'. Legislation follows, and miscarriages of justice.
 
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Confused ... OK - I don't agree with what he did, but :

A 17ft MOBO cannot carry 9 people without taking on water ? What went wrong with the Mobo ?

As Kevin_Mac says - we don't know whole story - only what Journalists write. Even Court says he acted well when it went t*** up. It's also significant IMHO that no mention of level of alcohol in the report.

Did he call for rescue ? No.
Did he sort the boat and people ? Yes.

Too many iff's there ...
 
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The bit that gets me is why the worried passenger phoned her mum! Is her mum superwoman or something? Why not the emergency services (unless she didn't know the number).
 
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Also ... why this ?

When a winchman was lowered to assist the passengers it emerged that Sibbald and another man, who were both wearing wetsuits, had leapt into the water and towed the stricken cruiser to shore.

If boat was towed to shore why did chopper guy go in water ?

However, halfway down the loch, the £10,000 fibreglass Quicksilver cruiser began taking in water.

Why halfway down Loch ? If boat was overloaded that badly - surely boat would have been taking in water earlier ... it was a 7 mile trip ? So that's 3.5 miles they went.

The article mentions boat designed to take 5 persons in safety. Given safety margins - that says to me that 9 + him as later it says 10 people would be too much but still I would not expect life threatening ? Pity no photos of the actual boat ..
 
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A worried female passengers, who had a mobile phone, called her mother in panic, who in-turn dialled 999.

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Quality journalism!!
 
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OK, 9 passengers & 2 jump in the water to tow it ashore (engine flooded?) so that leaves 7 aboard which is "safe load" by the time the rescue arrives. Strikes me there are a lot of strange issues in this. Why wasn't "panicked mum" fined?

It would be interesting to read an MAIB standard report of this, but is Loch Earn fresh or salt?
 
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While on the subject of tearing this to shreds ....

The article says they had an evening at a Hotel. Ok ... nothing unusual in that.

Sibbauld and another guy jumped into the water wearing wet-suits ................. hang on a mo. Wetsuits ? Is it normal practice to take the crumpet out for a drink to local hotel in a Wet-suit ?

Oh - they had time to don wet-suits to enter water and tow boat to shore ? Well if they had time to change into wet-suits, what's the score ?

Maybe they were rubber fetishists ?
 
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When a winchman was lowered to assist the passengers it emerged that Sibbald and another man, who were both wearing wetsuits, had leapt into the water and towed the stricken cruiser to shore.

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How did they tow it ashore ? were they on foot ?


Brian
 
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The story stinks of journalistic rubbish ! Leave out details to make it look more for the unknowing public.

What makes me cringe - it took me moments to see items in the story that didn't add up. Are people really that dense to read and accept at face ?
 
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Hi Refueler,
What do you mean by "Hands of (sic) proper English Sausages", and "Full English Breakfasts only please"?
I take it that this only applies to England, where you don't live.
 
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Out of ignorance, shouldn't it be 'Neoprene' fetishists ?? /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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It reminds me of that previous case where the rescue services forcibly "rescued" an elderly single-hander, from ... nothing. He later got an apology, but I guess he had not been drinking.

Or that poor sailor who, during a boring calm, tried to scrounge a tow from a passing motor boat. The motor boat called the French coast guard who mounted a forced rescue, despite the protestations of the sailor. He had to pay the cost of the unwelcome rescue.
 
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I'm speechless. Utter crap, spun out of control. I can't blame the rescue people, but I do feel for the guy. So he overloaded the boat, but he would appear to be pretty competent for having a wetsuit for two of them and getting the boat ashore, plus, for being 'half way' along his path, he must have stayed quite close to shore which again suggests forethought. I despair at this increasing inability to step outside any of the paranoid safety guidelines without being told off for being irresponsible. I'd be pretty miffed with the person who rang her mum.
 
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Hi Refueler,
What do you mean by "Hands of (sic) proper English Sausages", and "Full English Breakfasts only please"?
I take it that this only applies to England, where you don't live.

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I may not live in UK now - but do you think I was out here all time ? I do go back occasionally to HOMELAND you know ...
 
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No mention of what the charge was. 10 in a 17' boat is likely to be a dangerous load, especially when some of them are merry. I don't think you get extra credit for jumping into the water in these circumstance, unless it is a captain oatts style of self sacrifice.

R
 
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