Tommyrot
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Stupid and ignorant. Sounds at least a little insulting to me.
Downwind Faster than the Wind - Successful Run by manned cart
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Stupid and ignorant. Sounds at least a little insulting to me.
spork
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spork: "while yours is pure B.S."
Still having trouble with acceptable language I see. But if it is wrong why in Jan 2009 did the same explanation get posted, by your team, as a correct explanation.
You can not have it both ways.
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Now to illustrate your problem, I have condensed and highlighted specific examples from a single post: These were all written by Spork
"YOU're clearly a LITTLE person"
"YOU are completely CLUELESS"
"that YOU don't get to be just as much of a LITTLE BITCH as you please"
"while YOU're an internet CRANK turned failed armchair quarterback."
"do YOU insist on remaining an anonymous internet CRANK that LIES about his accomplishments?"
That is offensive, calling anyone an animal name! Also calling a person a liar with malice, especially with no evidence is a more serious matter.
Yes, I have only claimed one accomplishment, and I probably need to update that for accuracy. It was 35,000 miles without a failure. Not 30,000.
Still having trouble with acceptable language I see. But if it is wrong why in Jan 2009 did the same explanation get posted, by your team, as a correct explanation.
You can not have it both ways.
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Now to illustrate your problem, I have condensed and highlighted specific examples from a single post: These were all written by Spork
"YOU're clearly a LITTLE person"
"YOU are completely CLUELESS"
"that YOU don't get to be just as much of a LITTLE BITCH as you please"
"while YOU're an internet CRANK turned failed armchair quarterback."
"do YOU insist on remaining an anonymous internet CRANK that LIES about his accomplishments?"
That is offensive, calling anyone an animal name! Also calling a person a liar with malice, especially with no evidence is a more serious matter.
Yes, I have only claimed one accomplishment, and I probably need to update that for accuracy. It was 35,000 miles without a failure. Not 30,000.
spork
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So, you choose to remain an anonymous internet crank whose implied accomplishments will remain unidentified and unproven. But you still choose to attack my engineering abilities despite the complete transparency and ample evidence.
Perhaps when you post a blog documenting your engineering accomplishments with hundreds of pictures and description, I'll treat you to the same dispassionate criticisms that you afford us.
Perhaps when you post a blog documenting your engineering accomplishments with hundreds of pictures and description, I'll treat you to the same dispassionate criticisms that you afford us.
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Tommyrot:
That was addressed to a different person, that Spork wanted to distance himself from earlier. It was clearly addressed to Thinairdesigns.
I will also stand by that, as it was stupidity. It was not a reflection of the size of the person, or if they looked like an animal. Or if they had a inherent inability not to tell the truth. Or any other feature of the person in question. It was just amazing plain stupidity in my view, after looking at a particular video and lots of pictures. Single event evidence. Not a statement of future behavioural traits.
That was addressed to a different person, that Spork wanted to distance himself from earlier. It was clearly addressed to Thinairdesigns.
I will also stand by that, as it was stupidity. It was not a reflection of the size of the person, or if they looked like an animal. Or if they had a inherent inability not to tell the truth. Or any other feature of the person in question. It was just amazing plain stupidity in my view, after looking at a particular video and lots of pictures. Single event evidence. Not a statement of future behavioural traits.
spork
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But only due to your cluelessness. You were attacking MY engineering, MY design, and MY intellect (as much as JB's). You called ME stupid. I'll let the others on the forum judge who's stupid and who's not.
I think we can draw our own conclusions regarding your actual "accomplishments" based on the fact that you choose to remain an anonymous internet crank that attacks others form the comfort and safety of your keyboard.
You don't want to be called a liar? Tell us about this company of YOURS.
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Spork "But you still choose to attack my engineering abilities "
No, I am attacking a specific documented outcome of a teams engineering ability. I have no way to know who did what. It is quite with in your power to show how any of the problems could not occur. But that was never an option. You just wanted to describe your imagination of me in detail with as many personal insults as possible. But this seems to be a common occurrence now I have seen the other websites.
We do have a moderator that keep this forum going very well, but it still has some characters. However it is not fallen to these name calling depths for a while.
No, I am attacking a specific documented outcome of a teams engineering ability. I have no way to know who did what. It is quite with in your power to show how any of the problems could not occur. But that was never an option. You just wanted to describe your imagination of me in detail with as many personal insults as possible. But this seems to be a common occurrence now I have seen the other websites.
We do have a moderator that keep this forum going very well, but it still has some characters. However it is not fallen to these name calling depths for a while.
spork
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The name calling started with "stupid". And it doesn't matter if you KNEW who you were calling stupid.
So, still choosing not to try and backup your lies?
Yet another lie. You were attacking designs that you clearly didn't understand as you badly misrepresented them. The "outcome" is that we achieved nearly three times the windspeed directly downwind. Is THAT what you're attacking?
So, still choosing not to try and backup your lies?
Yet another lie. You were attacking designs that you clearly didn't understand as you badly misrepresented them. The "outcome" is that we achieved nearly three times the windspeed directly downwind. Is THAT what you're attacking?
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spork "You don't want to be called a liar?"
NO, Calling someone a liar, in written form, without any evidence is a certain type of behaviour. You clearly now admit you not to possess any evidence.
As for calling some one an animal, to offend them, its also only reflects on your image. But image is everything in marketing.
NO, Calling someone a liar, in written form, without any evidence is a certain type of behaviour. You clearly now admit you not to possess any evidence.
As for calling some one an animal, to offend them, its also only reflects on your image. But image is everything in marketing.
spork
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So you choose not to backup your lies. I think we can all figure out what to make of that.
Again, here is your very first post after my arrival: http://www.ybw.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2475737&postcount=371
Nearly every single assertion you make is provably wrong (and intentionally insulting).
ETA: remember harold and humber over on the talkrational forum? You're their hero now. Go take a look. That says more about you than I ever could.
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snowleopard
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May I point out to the protagonists that the moderators on this forum are a lot less tolerant of abuse than they are where you came from. The best advice I can offer is shut up or ship out.
spork
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You're free to offer that advice to halfway. I've done no more than to return his insults.
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Spork:
Imagine a tutor telling a student that they lost the mark in the exam for a stupid mistake.
Would that imply, in any way, that next week the student would NOT have taken note, and would do the same mistake again?
NO. It is definitely NOT saying they are a stupid student. It is not calling them an animal. It is not calling them a liar. It is saying that they HAVE made a stupid mistake. The student's future ability or what they look like is not in question. The comment was based on evidence, in this case an exam paper.
What is the difference?
Imagine a tutor telling a student that they lost the mark in the exam for a stupid mistake.
Would that imply, in any way, that next week the student would NOT have taken note, and would do the same mistake again?
NO. It is definitely NOT saying they are a stupid student. It is not calling them an animal. It is not calling them a liar. It is saying that they HAVE made a stupid mistake. The student's future ability or what they look like is not in question. The comment was based on evidence, in this case an exam paper.
What is the difference?
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SL: "where you came from"
I have always been here. I remember the video with the hankies! I just don't have the access normally. Kind of stuck at present!
I have always been here. I remember the video with the hankies! I just don't have the access normally. Kind of stuck at present!
Keen_Ed
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Perhaps a lunatic is simply a minority of one.
Tommyrot
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Sounds a lot like the "Bill Clinton defence".
...and "ignorant", you failed to explain that one away.
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Keen_Ed: I am OK then, as the current group I am in has 22. Sadly a small majority of the 344 views.
Tommyrot
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Didn't Albert Einstein (amongst many other scientists) admit he'd not got things quite right first time around?
Tommyrot
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Why the constant reference to marketing?
I had assumed the project was not being done for commercial purposes.
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Tommyrot: You quote "ignorant". That would imply I used that word. In the post in question it does not occur. A similar word does, but I take the alteration to show that you do understand the difference.
An "ignorant person" is an insult, "your ignorance" is a description of the current state of play.
Just to quote a completely unreliable source:
"Ignorance is where someone or something is uninformed. This should not be confused with being unintelligent, as one's level of intelligence and level of education or general awareness are not the same. The word "Ignorant" is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware. The term may be used specifically (e.g. "One can be an expert in math, and totally ignorant of history.") or generally (e.g. "an ignorant person.") -- although the second use is used less as a descriptive and more as an imprecise personal insult"
An "ignorant person" is an insult, "your ignorance" is a description of the current state of play.
Just to quote a completely unreliable source:
"Ignorance is where someone or something is uninformed. This should not be confused with being unintelligent, as one's level of intelligence and level of education or general awareness are not the same. The word "Ignorant" is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware. The term may be used specifically (e.g. "One can be an expert in math, and totally ignorant of history.") or generally (e.g. "an ignorant person.") -- although the second use is used less as a descriptive and more as an imprecise personal insult"