Does anyone?

[jfm]

Deny suggestion they\'re frightened off

Kim:

The fuel forum will pick up when the season starts, it was only invented in about September when things were dying down

Agree there needs to be an informal code of conduct that newbies do not get insulted etc. Also better thread titles please

But hey, I'm sorry but IMHO newbies are not treated badly round here. BarryD started asking a newbie question about his gas guzzler about 9 months ago and he got advice and some banter, but he was well balanced enuf to take it well and give as good as he got ( more....DFL). Caz today has got decent replies. Gludy did too a while back. Others too. We do not scare away newbies, if there are people who lurk but never post then it's more because they want to do that. It's quite wrong to suggest that they lurk becuase they're frightened off posting, you have no evidence of that and it's guesswork, wrong guesswork IMHO. Jeez, if someone's too shy to post on a BB just because there are afew e-in-jokes flying around, think how they must be when walking into a room of real people!

Splitting this in 2 will not help. None of us wants a pure PBO type boatstuff only forum, and pure chat will drift and be aimless, and peter out. It really needs to be left as is

 

[tcm]

Re: Marian

ooh I'm guilty a bit. But then others are guilty too. Sometimes they're right, sometimes not. A popular forum will always be a target. Remeber that scuttelbutt was hugely popular before the dismemberment, so they all went away. Wonder if marian would start a motoboating forum? Lets go and ask on http://www.voy.com/27508/newpost.html

 

[tcm]

Re: \"in\" jokes , oh and boats

Gludy wasn't here long before he got ribbed about being "glued" to the marina, and now buying monster liferaft that sounds almsot bigger than his boat.

As for encouraging newbies, I did a bit of that. No complaint bout you doing it too.
Also, why not a slightly more extensive "first posting" email to new users when they register, perhaps with an example and all the wotsit icon thingys explained. Boatily, if you had a great-selling model, you'd improve it. Not rip it up....

Hence f'line holiday 22/23 with 600 units, Turbo36 with er loads too over the years. Compare with 43AC and latterly crappo new t52 with loads of good t48 features missing, also dumping on current t48 owners with devaluation of obsolete model

Now then , would this be a Boat posting, or "airing views"? Wil their be an "airing views on boats" forum? Also, an airing views on other people airing their views, and so on.

 

[tcm]

Re: slightly better research re c-j

Who said, back in septemebr...


"When you said great site I thought you must be talking about the fabulous mby.com Many an hour I spend flicking between the glorious pages of this fantastic site. Still must get going as family and I are just off to Boat show with sole intention of trying to obtain one of those MBY annual subscription thingies."

so he likes it as it is. Just not some recent stuff.

 

[boatone]

Re: slightly better research......

.....needed all round......
who said on Nov 13th.........
matts
(regular)
Tue Nov 13 15:45:06 2001
Re: now that is a good idea [re: boatone]

A boaters Lounge sounds wonderful. Much better than a Yacht Club.
Yacht = seriousy racing worky snooty praps, and Club =membership only, so not v welcoming. Whereas boaters = dinghy thru oceanliner, Lounge = slump around drinking/drinking lots.









TonyR
boatone@boatsontheweb.com

 

[martinwoolwich]

Re: View of an almost newbie

Just as a point of reference. I've been visiting this forum now for just over a year. 14 months ago I knew virually nothing about boating. Today I know a little. I've been following this forum avidly it's my single biigest source of information. I've even been "brave " enough to ask some questions. Certainly in the earlier days my questions were very nieve and innocent.

I can honestly say that the feedback I've had from this forums' contributors has been brilliant. In some instances it's pointed me in the right direction, in others it's saved me money and in others I've just learn't a bit more.

It is true that if you ask a question it might get replied in a way you don't expect, but on all the questions I've ever asked there have always been some serious and helpful responses.

On three occassions I've felt compelled to send a private mail to a contributor thanking them for their detailed and helpful feedback.

On the other hand, even as an outsider looking in, I've really enjoyed the humor and banter on the site. The DF Light thing had me in stiches for days! and the personalities that are here make it a pleasure to come back again and again.

I've never had a problem working out when a thread has gone off the point and disappeared up some fantastical hidden passageway of......... humor. At times, when I'm in the mood, I'll carry on reading, other times I just go on to the next thread. It's never been a problem.

In short I think the forum is great and it's great because of the personalities of the contributors.

IMHO - (yup I learnt that one here), I think that anything considered which might change the style and flavour of this forum should be thought through really carefully indeed. And I for one would be against it.

 

[tcm]

Re: coontext, though

You worried bout the volume of posts, then (near christmas) much higher than now.

Kim said:
"One possible option...Motor Boat Chat is the only forum to be shared by two mags. We could easily launch a second power-based forum. "

several, including me, posted against.

Then you said
"I'll probably get told to wash my mouth out for this but why not one big
'Boaters Lounge' for the banter where all the forums could come together in a spirit of mutual(?) understanding?"

followed by my approval of the boaters lounge title as you have noted

BUT
1. I was in favour of the title. Not the split forum. A physical boaters lounge, see? Instead of a yot club.
2. Seems you idea was to slam all the forums together
3. I was only trying to make you feel happy, and not Mr No-mates with several peeps all disagreeing wiv yor daft idea of somehow cutting down on the number of posts.

The remainder of this post is highly amusing and includes a few sentence which some people might colloquially refer to as a "joke". I will remove myself to nother forum to post it...

See?

 

[JohnR]

Re: YES...........

What's MBM, some type of sweet that leave you with chocolate all over the face?

 

[tcm]

Re: Wrong assumptions

I see no evidence that it's good to associate the magazines each with their own website. MBY for example don't contribute to the forums, but lots of their readers do. I mean, they don't contribute their readers' Do-Do. But erm anyway. Blue water cruisng is a bit empty. And scuttlebutt still could be amalgmated.

Fact is Kim, IPC haven't the faintest clue why a forum works , or doesn't - otherwise whatever it is - you'd have done it to scuttlebutt and wouldn;t have the embarssing Salipower, would you?

 

[ArthurWood]

Re: Statistics

Kim - some interesting stats from ParaHandy in another thread; I'm not very surprised at the 5/30 and 10/50 numbers(how did he get them?) and it's significant that many of those who are vehemently protesting a change are in that minority, which may be illustrative of a problem. The BB is obviously a lot of fun for the 'in' crowd, but I can appreciate that newbies might be put off by the 'inness' or the response or lack of it sometimes resulting from newbie questions. However, you have not, to my knowledge, given examples of complaints to justify a split. And 24 hours' notice is a bit precipitate innit?
I vote against a split, but I'm not 'in' 'cos I live in the sun
AW 22C
p.s I often wonder why I spend so much time reading stuff on this BB. Is it addictive? It's rarely informative and it's certainly a time-waster - a lot, well 10, of highly paid people seem to spend an awful lot of time here - so am I just another sad ol' git with nothing better to do, and who needs someone to talk to? I don't think so, but perhaps a psychologist could help explain the attraction;-)

 

[Col]

Re: Athurs forum.

Perhaps ask BBC weather site if they will start a forum just for you, seeing how you are always telling us how high the temperature is over there.

;-)

 

[tcm]

Re: \"in\" crowds or no crowds

we could detune the "in" jokes a bit.

But anywhere where it is really good - there are "in" crowds - in other words peopel who have been again and again, and who know other who do the same and also enjoy it. Good pubs, restaurants, holiday resorts, all have these. If you go even a bit regularly, you'll be "in" at least on this BB. There's still info for others, as far as I can see.

not being "in" does make you feel a bit "out". Humans are gregarious and like to feel "in". Hence complaints?

Or does KH feel that by proviing a really good service that loads will come anyway, as they do to a petrol station, or macdonalds? Unlikely. Not for tides table nor weather nor most other stuff do people turn up here. Below this weeks utterly irrelevant motoboat news headlines. Well done sailymags.

Big entry expected for Industry Sailing Challenge
Over 1,000 competitors are expected to take part in this year's Industry Sailing Challenge
Sue Pelling/Yachting World, 16 January 2002
Ed Baird teach-in for new match racers
A match racing skills and rules clinic headed by Ed Baird will be one of the highlights of the forthcoming Rolex Women's Match event in Florida
Sue Pelling/Yachting World, 16 January 2002

Cayard joins Amer Sports One
Paul Cayard is replacing Dee Smith the VOR yacht Amer Sports One
Yachting World, 16 January 2002

Reward to collar lugger louts
Insurers are offering a deterrent reward for stolen lugger
By Dick Durham, news editor, Yachting Monthly, 16 January 2002

VOR girls announce new crew
British sailors Emma Richards and Miranda Merron are the two new crew members aboard Amer Sports Too
Sue Pelling/Yachting World, 16 January 2002

Maryland prepares for Melges North Americans
The 2002 International Melges 24 North American Championship will be held in Annapolis, Maryland from April 1-6
Yachting World, 16 January 2002

Honda’s centre of power
Petrolhead heaven has opened. It’s in Chiswick, West London, and stocks the entire range of Honda power equipment, from the smallest outboard to the biggest MPV
Chris Beeson/ybw, 15 January 2002

Late surge buoys Boat Show
Despite global economic gloom, recalcitrant trains in the southeast and a complete no-show by the Piccadilly line, a late surge of visitors at the 48th London Boat Show has allowed the organisers to report some relatively healthy figures
ybw, 15 January 2002

VOR: Two new crew for Krantz
After the departure of Team SEB’s British watch captain Matthew Humphries, skipper Gurra Krantz welcomes two new crew members
Chris Beeson/ybw, 15 January 2002

Coastguard monitors African pirates
Falmouth Coastguard tipped off Somalian authorities after receiving a distress call from the 6,000-ton freighter Princess Sarah
Chris Beeson/ybw, 15 January 2002

Americans scoop Skiff trophy
Howard Hamlin, Mike Martin and Trevor Baylis - the crew of General Electric-US Challenge – have become the first American crew ever to win the JJ Giltinan 18 foot Skiff International Championship
Yachting World, 15 January 2002

Portchester Castle on audio
Portsmouth's greatest fortress now on audio tour
By Dick Durham, news editor, Yachting Monthly, 15 January 2002

Rolex Commodore’s Cup 2002: Meeting
The RYA has issued a call for all owners and skippers interested in trying out for Rolex Commodore’s Cup 2002 selection to gather at the Royal Thames Yacht Club on 29 January
Chris Beeson/ybw, 14 January 2002

JS 9000 container swap
A new boat has been built to replace the new JS 9000 that went missing on its way from Australia to Dusseldorf Boat Show
Sue Pelling/Yachting World, 14 January 2002

Hemingway's old sea man dies
Star of Ernest Hemingway's book The Old Man and the Sea dies aged 104
By Dick Durham, news editor, Yachting Monthly, 14 January 2002

The perils of seasickness
Seasickness can affect anyone, even the world’s most professional sailors competing in the Volvo Ocean race. But how do they cope when the pressure is on 24 hours a day
Yachting World, 14 January 2002

 

[ArthurWood]

Re: Athurs(sic) forum.

Just trying to make you a little more worldly over there in Reading. Or, in other words, b----x , ,