If you mean the clove hitch many of us use to drop two loops over a bollard for mooring - no. This hitch always "works" and lets go, good for a few minutes whilst you sort yourself out only. Round turn and two half hitches only, or one of the doubled loop variations of that.
All you need is OXO, any more is just cluttering up your cleats. With boating it pays to keep things as simple as possible, so any crew you have on board can tie up and untie a rope on a cleat easily and simply.
You can then use the cleat for another like if the desire takes you, rather than criss crossing up to the guardrails
Look at any big boat in port and they use OXO, if it can hold a superyacht it can hold you /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
"OXO", "0800", I need to get out more! I'd never have known what "OXO" was, apart from Katie's cube in the stew, and still don't know what "0800" is apart from free calls!
If you refer then to tying around a cleat we always double diagonal and finish with a half hitch for safety.
OXO is fine, try it out, if stern-to, make fast to a cleat, drive both engines forward at full thrust, then neutral, quick blip astern to allow line to slacken, then full speed ahead again......... You can bolt the cleat back to the pontoon later! Just kidding, but it would probably still hold! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Er this is a joke right? If not, could others bear in mind that superyachts hav varying quality of crew, but few if any with the brains to do what most have done hereabouts - get a job that pays enough to buy a boat. So following the example of the newbie or old lag crew not always if ever a great idea. The same daft logic might claim that those with 100m boats know twice that of the crew of a 50m yacht, or even that a photographer of yachts knows all about every boat he's snapped, but none of this is true. Some superyachts use braidd non-elastic lines, awful. And so on.
Proper knot on dock like rtand2hh which can be undone under tension, and which allows others to use same cleat hence NEVER oxo on dock cleat. On boat OXO is a tempry hold, needs locking turns and not just one. Ask those who look after boats over winter if simple oxo useable, hah.
And what the hek is that about leading mooring lines up the guardrails? Jeez
Hey up tcm.
I think the OP was just talking in general tying up.
Snooks jumped in with Big Boat stuff.
This is like an 'anchor' thread or 'Col Regs'
Could go on and on.
What boat, what pontoon, which way is the wind/tide coming from?
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Which/What type of string as You say etc.
I think it is Horses for Courses.
Taint an exact science.
Basic rope stuff.
Thing peeps have trouble with is making fast without stymieing (is that a word, maybe stuffing?) the boat that might want to leave afor you?
Well when I arrived after your sea trials. The boat was half way out the marina, still tied up I'll grant. Rubbish about wind, cos it will change over the weeks. It has to stay put. Even with a few locking turns, it will stretch quite a way.
I do find it quite amusing when I see ropes tied off with round, then lock turn, then lock turn, then lock turn, then lock turn, then lock turn, then lock turn, then lock turn, then lock turn, then lock turn, then lock turn etc ....
Personally I do OXOO, or sometimes OXXOO ... but then most of the time it is tied off with a spliced loop at each end - the "other" end being shackled to a mooring buoy!!