Do you have a floating line for your dinghy painter?

[Mr Cassandra]

So you’ve weighted the middle of the line to ensure it’s next to the prop?

No the spring clip weight is on the 2 meter end of the painter on my 2.3 metre dingy, if it drops into the water when using the dingy its at least 300mm away from the prop on the outboard The other 2 metre length is always connected to the yacht.
There's not a lot of thinking outside the box on this traditional forum.

 

[lustyd]

We’re talking about the yacht prop not the dinghy prop, my point was that your two clips will make the rope sink next to that.

 

[NormanS]

There should be a dislike button!

Painters need to be long enough to reach the wall the the tide is out, and to let enough slack when tied up to a pontoon so that other dinghies can come alongside and for many more reasons.

You obviously have difficulty in reading. The OP referred to the danger of the dinghy painter fouling the propeller. That is the scenario to which I was responding. You appear to have gone off at a tangent about dinghies moored at a pontoon.
To make it absolutely clear to those of limited comprehension, when my dinghy is attached to my yacht, the painter is made fast in such a manner that it cannot foul the propeller. If I make the dinghy fast to a pontoon, I use my common sense.

 

[Mr Cassandra]

How? Wasn't the OP talking about dingy painters.
I also find it hard to see how 2 meters on the dingy and 2 meters on the yacht would get in the way of the prop unless you were reversing over your own dingy. As I move forward the dingy is 4 meters behind the boat , when reversing the 4 metre length is on a mid cleat nicely tucking into the bow nowhere again close to a propeller on yacht or dinghy.
14.5 metre yacht lengthen or shorten to suit your boat

 

[lustyd]

Yes the people in the video couldn’t see how it would foul either, hence this whole thread!

 

[Mr Cassandra]

Yes the people in the video couldn’t see how it would foul either, hence this whole thread!

They are new to sailing perhaps we both don't know the length of their painter sounds like inexperience to me and a accident.
Take care.

 

[lustyd]

Perhaps, although they are liveaboard cruisers in the Caribbean so unlikely to be new to it. They probably just didn’t consider that several metres of non floating rope was a bad idea. As I said, 4m of line with a weight in the middle next to a prop 1m below the surface might also be an issue during an emergency situation. Stainless clips will also discourage tying up appropriately to the situation in favour of just clipping on. There’s a reason some of us think outside the box and decide the old ways are the good ways.

 

[Mr Cassandra]

I am looking now at the line I actually think the weight stops any chance of it happening.
My yacht propeller is more than 2 meters from the weighted line. The weight even stops the line in getting in between the top of the rudders and the hull.
No I'm fine and have used this method for a very long time.
It's difficult to get a dog to learn new tricks but I think humans can learn if they try hard. ?

 

[Neeves]

We don't tow our dinghy, very untidy. We lift on (?) under the davits - that's why they are there. Same with the Kayaks - we lift them on deck. One lies on top of the davits the other across the deck.

Jonathan

 

[scottie]

We’re talking about the yacht prop not the dinghy prop, my point was that your two clips will make the rope sink next to that.

Who says?

 

[Refueler]

There should be a dislike button!

Painters need to be long enough to reach the wall the the tide is out, and to let enough slack when tied up to a pontoon so that other dinghies can come alongside and for many more reasons.

Yep ... agree.

I can remember the days at Yarmouth when there would be 5 .. 6 ... 7 dinghys to step into to get to own ... and of course there was always one ***** who had a short painter and complain that they could not be at 'front' at the pontoon.

Ye Olde Days Yarmouth ......

With our Hilyard back there on the trots ..

 

[JumbleDuck]

I agree with the sentiment, but you're suggesting a dinghy must be tied with and only with the painter. That's not the case, all kinds of bits of string can be used as required.

We usually have two painters on ours: a short one (~1.5m) which we use when coming into harbours or moorings and a long (~10m) one with which we tow at sea. Fouling the dinghy propeller isn't an issue, because we row, but the short one won't reach down to the boat's propeller.

 

[Refueler]

Who says?

Having had it happen to me .... the rope does not have to actually be down to prop ... I had an end just go in water ... just a foot or so ... but the boat movement / prop action was enough to 'suck' that end down, the coil on deck and into the prop .... luckily it was on my home berth and later I had guy go in and cut it free while I directed by underwater camera.

 

[Refueler]

We usually have two painters on ours: a short one (~1.5m) which we use when coming into harbours or moorings and a long (~10m) one with which we tow at sea. Fouling the dinghy propeller isn't an issue, because we row, but the short one won't reach down to the boat's propeller.

My 3 dinghys have long painters of about 4m ... with an eye half way ... that way I can choose short or long for making fast. It also makes sure by dropping eye over the oars mount - the painter cannot foul dinghy prop.
When I sailed Solent and had to take care of rafted dinghys / tidal quays etc. - I always had a second line available to join to the existing painter.

 

[lustyd]

We usually have two painters on ours: a short one (~1.5m) which we use when coming into harbours or moorings and a long (~10m) one with which we tow at sea. Fouling the dinghy propeller isn't an issue, because we row, but the short one won't reach down to the boat's propeller.

If the long one is permanently attached though, you'd also want to either have it floating line or secure it somehow. It's not unheard of for the wind/waves/tide/seals/children to knock a rope into the water

 

[JumbleDuck]

If the long one is permanently attached though, you'd also want to either have it floating line or secure it somehow. It's not unheard of for the wind/waves/tide/seals/children to knock a rope into the water

The only time that might realistically happen is on longer trips, when it's in use anyway. If conditions in harbour are enough to throw 10m of wet 12mm 3-strand rope out of the bottom of a GRP dinghy and overboard, we have bigger problems!

 

[lustyd]

If conditions in harbour are enough to throw 10m of wet 12mm 3-strand rope out of the bottom of a GRP dinghy and overboard, we have bigger problems!

Yes, that was the focus of the video! The bigger problem was being on the beach with no propulsion ?

 

[Stemar]

On Jissel, the prop was tucked away where the dinghy's towing line never reached it. Not the same on Jazzcat. In a display worthy of the Boneheaded Boaters on Youtube, I backed off the scrubbing grid and got the painter round the prop. A heavy, twin engined cat doesn't handle very well on one engine until you're doing 3-4 knots, and in a confined space with expensive GRP all around, 3-4 knots is a bad idea too...

Got it free, then immediately did it again. ?

Floating painter bought the next day.

 

[Refueler]

Hi Stemar .... glad to hear you got sorted ...

I know how embarrassing it can be !!

 

[Robin]

Then don't go to Newtown Creek and use dinghy to the quay ... short painter will have that dinghy hanging when Tide goes out ...

painter shortened tonot reach outboard prop and a longer line (doubles as a stern line ) for extending it for when a long painter is required like off Sark.
Never ever tow a dinghy since being attacked by one in a downwind sleigh ride squall in a 21 footer, around 1970.