Do you ever display a motoring cone?

[Jamesuk]

only in Holland

Never. Unless on an RYA training course which I feel like a bit of a hypocrite :-/. It's a MOB risk sending a crew to the foredeck looking up the mast messing around with halyards an shrouds for what is a waste of time for small vessels with most cases weekend crew at best.

I'm a stickler for COLREGS but unless I'm over 24metres or a commercial vessel such as PYD or Hally Yachts ;-) then I'll bend like a Beckham free kick on the motoring triangle.

I do love an anchor ball tho ;-) boats at anchor is stable and stationary so much safer for new or weekend crew

 

[fisherman]

If the other boat were to give way unnecessarily because said plonker was actually motoring, it is an annoyance more than a shipwreck hazard or am I missing a point here.

Broadly, I would agree, but suppose I, motor vessel, very light wind astern, have you at my 10 o clock close hauled. I am tempted to turn to port to give way to your sails but you, knowing you are motoring, give way to me by turning to stbd. If I suspected this might happen I would, given time, turn 270 degs to stbd. When this did happen to me the SV stood on and forced me off my course, while I was shooting gear. The wind was so light I surmised he didn't have enough steerage way to readily avoid me. (I know I'm not allowed to enter these discussions because of the universal habit of FVs to charge at other vessels under a welded-on fishing shape). In case of an incident the MCA looks at everything, and in a low light collision off Falmouth even inspected the nav lights to see if they had the correct bulbs fitted. Of course insurance will lean on "it is incumbent on the skipper of every vessel to take the necessary steps to avoid collision" or thereabouts.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Broadly, I would agree, but suppose I, motor vessel, very light wind astern, have you at my 10 o clock close hauled. I am tempted to turn to port to give way to your sails but you, knowing you are motoring, give way to me by turning to stbd.

Wouldn't you be overtaking, then, and therefore the give-way vessel regardless of how the other one was being propelled?

 

[fisherman]

Wouldn't you be overtaking, then, and therefore the give-way vessel regardless of how the other one was being propelled?

Doesn't 'close hauled' indicate you are sailing broadly up wind? I have wind astern, you are approaching 45 degs on my port bow.

 

[macd]

I know I'm not allowed to enter these discussions because of the universal habit of FVs to charge at other vessels under a welded-on fishing shape

:encouragement:
(in the absence of an ironic grin smiley).

 

[JumbleDuck]

Doesn't 'close hauled' indicate you are sailing broadly up wind? I have wind astern, you are approaching 45 degs on my port bow.

Ah yes, I see what you mean. Tricky situation, that.

 

[lw395]

Don't see many motoring cones in the Small Boat Channel going into Pompey!!!

Not needed there, as use of engines is obligatory if fitted.