DJI Osmo Pocket

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I know that there are several of you on here who make some lovely videos with your DJI Drones. DJI Have a new toy out that I think will add greatly to your videos, I have just ordered one. It is called the DJI Osmo Pocket at £329. A bit over priced in my view but Hey Ho. Have a look around and tell me what you think


Dennis
 
NormanB said:
Would be helpful if you provided a link to the OSMO.

However Casey Neistat has sort of done a review in You Tube and rates it - https://youtu.be/07kJSgNNdTM, the review starts at about 1:00 min.
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Looking at that review, I think I'd go for the GoPro due to:

1) Electronic stabilisation has got to be more reliable (harder to break) and seemed to give equally good stabilization results
2) The go Pro seems to have better low light and sound performance
3) There's got to be more mounting options for the GoPro

Anyhow, it's great to see these features coming even if I have to wait for the Chinese to copy them onto cheap clones.

Pete
 
petem said:
Looking at that review, I think I'd go for the GoPro due to:

1) Electronic stabilisation has got to be more reliable (harder to break) and seemed to give equally good stabilization results
2) The go Pro seems to have better low light and sound performance
3) There's got to be more mounting options for the GoPro

Anyhow, it's great to see these features coming even if I have to wait for the Chinese to copy them onto cheap clones.

Pete
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Mechanical stabilisation believe it or not is far better than Electronic and DJI are way ahead of the competition
 
mech stab feels better and looks better than sw (imho) I suppose s/w could match it if it was oversampling massively and then post processing to reduce jitter and still have pixels to show a sharp image. Not sure they can do it unless you shoot 4K and edit/present HD or 720 :rolleyes:

Mike, doubt you can remove the distortion on a gopro it's the ultra wide angle of the lens. You can probably add the clip on a video editing s/w and do an inverse spherical distortion to "repair" it but it wont look right (imho again)
 
My experience of electronic stablisation is that it creates unusual effects in a variety of cameras, particularly with speedboat style movement (filming in a fairly fast moving boat).

I use an OSMO Mobile 2 and a mobile phone (which shoots at 4k) and this produces a good stable picture (you have to turn off the electronic stabilisation in the phone otherwise a "fight" breaks out between the two systems). However, stabilisation is only possible within the movement range of the gimbal. The video below shows it operating. This is a hand held mobile in a fast moving boat, watch the horizon and see how it remains stable whilst the boat (and camera operator) are thrown around. On some shots the wind is affecting the gimbal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZt6Z9LXY8
 
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mlines said:
My experience of electronic stablisation is that it creates unusual effects in a variety of cameras, particularly with speedboat style movement (filming in a fairly fast moving boat).

I use an OSMO Mobile 2 and a mobile phone (which shoots at 4k) and this produces a good stable picture (you have to turn off the electronic stabilisation in the phone otherwise a "fight" breaks out between the two systems). However, stabilisation is only possible within the movement range of the gimbal. The video below shows it operating. This is a hand held mobile in a fast moving boat, watch the horizon and see how it remains stable whilst the boat (and camera operator) are thrown around. On some shots the wind is affecting the gimbal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZt6Z9LXY8
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Very impressive stabilisation in what must be classed as a demanding environment.
 
mlines said:
My experience of electronic stablisation is that it creates unusual effects in a variety of cameras, particularly with speedboat style movement (filming in a fairly fast moving boat).

I use an OSMO Mobile 2 and a mobile phone (which shoots at 4k) and this produces a good stable picture (you have to turn off the electronic stabilisation in the phone otherwise a "fight" breaks out between the two systems). However, stabilisation is only possible within the movement range of the gimbal. The video below shows it operating. This is a hand held mobile in a fast moving boat, watch the horizon and see how it remains stable whilst the boat (and camera operator) are thrown around. On some shots the wind is affecting the gimbal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZt6Z9LXY8
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This year I've been using a cheap hand held gimbal with my Samsung S8 phone.
The S8 has optical and electronic stabilisation.
I just left it all on - even when using the hand held gimbal.
The results were very good so I didn't change anything.

However, I did notice some strange effects when not using the gimbal - i.e. just using the S8 with its optical/electronic stabilisation.
A big jerk of the phone would give weird effects - particularly at the edges of the video.
This clip shows what I mean - the castle in the foreground "kind of" stands out like a cardboard cutout.
Particularly at the beginning of the clip.



Full screen link http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=DXdFjdbeh1Y

And, yes, the wind is a problem when using these hand held gimbals - the motors aren't strong enough to stop the wind moving the phone.
 
That wierd 3D effect is probably because electronic stabilisation is cropping to the centre of the image and playing with the areas around the edges of the picture to make the centre appear stable in the centre. Therefore the middle is staying at the native high resolution of the camera but as you go out the image is more and more processed.
 
mlines said:
My experience of electronic stablisation is that it creates unusual effects in a variety of cameras, particularly with speedboat style movement (filming in a fairly fast moving boat).

I use an OSMO Mobile 2 and a mobile phone (which shoots at 4k) and this produces a good stable picture (you have to turn off the electronic stabilisation in the phone otherwise a "fight" breaks out between the two systems). However, stabilisation is only possible within the movement range of the gimbal. The video below shows it operating. This is a hand held mobile in a fast moving boat, watch the horizon and see how it remains stable whilst the boat (and camera operator) are thrown around. On some shots the wind is affecting the gimbal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZt6Z9LXY8
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Quite apart from the (impressive) stabilisation, that was a nice video to watch on a gloomy December morning, thanks.
 
A few thoughts on the original post: Osmo Pocket (vs. say, a GoPro) is a tough call. I have Osmo Mobile and the Ronin-S and while they do give nice results, they are a bit of a pain to set up and use. Therefore Osmo Pocket is an interesting concept as it is always ready to use, no fiddling required.

While with Osmo Mobile the image is good, the mobile phone's mic starts to give up if the distance to the audio source is more than a few meters. Noticed this while trying to film the christening of my god daughter's baby. With a bit of rigging and DIY'ing I added an external mic to the setup, but that immediately made it less convenient and less portable.

Also noticed from Casey's review that the audio on Osmo Pocket wasn't impressive, but looking at other reviews, I'd say it's no worse than GoPro. I would, however, estimate that it could become a factor in a typical noisy boating environment, but it will be interesting to see how you get along with it.

As always, it comes down to the purpose you are going to use it for. For my own use, both Osmo Pocket and GoPro fill the same slot (compactness, stabilization, lacking in audio). I would probably go for the GoPro, because of the robustness and mounting options, but mainly because I already have more gear than I can carry for the typical Vlogging use case.

But as I said, it would be very interesting to hear how you find it.
 
scubaman said:
A few thoughts on the original post: Osmo Pocket (vs. say, a GoPro) is a tough call. I have Osmo Mobile and the Ronin-S and while they do give nice results, they are a bit of a pain to set up and use. Therefore Osmo Pocket is an interesting concept as it is always ready to use, no fiddling required.

While with Osmo Mobile the image is good, the mobile phone's mic starts to give up if the distance to the audio source is more than a few meters. Noticed this while trying to film the christening of my god daughter's baby. With a bit of rigging and DIY'ing I added an external mic to the setup, but that immediately made it less convenient and less portable.

Also noticed from Casey's review that the audio on Osmo Pocket wasn't impressive, but looking at other reviews, I'd say it's no worse than GoPro. I would, however, estimate that it could become a factor in a typical noisy boating environment, but it will be interesting to see how you get along with it.

As always, it comes down to the purpose you are going to use it for. For my own use, both Osmo Pocket and GoPro fill the same slot (compactness, stabilization, lacking in audio). I would probably go for the GoPro, because of the robustness and mounting options, but mainly because I already have more gear than I can carry for the typical Vlogging use case.

But as I said, it would be very interesting to hear how you find it.
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Very useful comments...… I have looked at some other reviews and it seems that DJI have fixed (made a lot better) the audio from the pre release models. Now just waiting to see what it is like

Dennis
 
scubaman said:
A few thoughts on the original post: Osmo Pocket (vs. say, a GoPro) is a tough call. I have Osmo Mobile and the Ronin-S and while they do give nice results, they are a bit of a pain to set up and use. Therefore Osmo Pocket is an interesting concept as it is always ready to use, no fiddling required.

While with Osmo Mobile the image is good, the mobile phone's mic starts to give up if the distance to the audio source is more than a few meters. Noticed this while trying to film the christening of my god daughter's baby. With a bit of rigging and DIY'ing I added an external mic to the setup, but that immediately made it less convenient and less portable.

Also noticed from Casey's review that the audio on Osmo Pocket wasn't impressive, but looking at other reviews, I'd say it's no worse than GoPro. I would, however, estimate that it could become a factor in a typical noisy boating environment, but it will be interesting to see how you get along with it.

As always, it comes down to the purpose you are going to use it for. For my own use, both Osmo Pocket and GoPro fill the same slot (compactness, stabilization, lacking in audio). I would probably go for the GoPro, because of the robustness and mounting options, but mainly because I already have more gear than I can carry for the typical Vlogging use case.

But as I said, it would be very interesting to hear how you find it.
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What phone do you use with the Osmo Mobile?
I don't have an Osmo Mobile - I bought a cheap alternative which I use with my Samsung S8 phone.
I am very pleased with quality of the S8's photos, video and sound.
The music/audio recorded on the S8 during a wedding we went to last summer was good enough to use in the final cut.
Quality of the output is significantly better than my old DSLR
I believe that the S9 is an improvement over the S8.
As you say, it is a bit of a faf setting all this stuff up so I'm looking forward to opening my new Osmo Pocket on Christmas morning.
 
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Hurricane said:
What phone do you use with the Osmo Mobile?
I don't have an Osmo Mobile - I bought a cheap alternative which I use with my Samsung S8 phone.
I am very pleased with quality of the S8's photos, video and sound.
The music/audio recorded on the S8 during a wedding we went to last summer was good enough to use in the final cut.
Quality of the output is significantly better than my old DSLR
I believe that the S9 is an improvement over the S8.
As you say, it is a bit of a faf setting all this stuff up so I'm looking forward to opening my new Osmo Pocket on Christmas morning.
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I have an iPhone 7 Plus. With only the lightning port, adding a mic required an adapter which pushed the phone left in the Osmo Mobile cradle. To offset the imbalance, I used velcro and a tin of mints filled with the right number of pebbles as a counter weight. I was then able to attach the mic to Osmo Mobile, but it being directional, I had to rotate it facing backwards every time I did something in selfie mode. Let's just say that the Osmo Pocket will beat my setup hands down in the convenience department.

Otherwise the image quality with it's dual back cameras is very good on the iPhone. Lot better than on my previous camcorder. The front camera has more limited dynamic range, however, which sometimes shows in burnt out skin tones, etc. Not so nice.
 
If audio is required I have a Tascam DR05 as none of the cameras (GoPro, Samsung Gear or Pixel phone) produce good enough sound as they are always too far from the subject.

Its more kit to have in you bag but it can be left running to continuously record sound whilst turning cameras off/on
 
Hurricane said:
What phone do you use with the Osmo Mobile?
I don't have an Osmo Mobile - I bought a cheap alternative which I use with my Samsung S8 phone.
I am very pleased with quality of the S8's photos, video and sound.
The music/audio recorded on the S8 during a wedding we went to last summer was good enough to use in the final cut.
Quality of the output is significantly better than my old DSLR
I believe that the S9 is an improvement over the S8.
As you say, it is a bit of a faf setting all this stuff up so I'm looking forward to opening my new Osmo Pocket on Christmas morning.
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Make sure you have Micro SD Card in stock or you will be frustrated on Christmas day :)
 
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