Discover the breathtaking beauty of Montenegro

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I started this topic in order to promote a rising nautical destination of Montenegro which is located on coast of the Adriatic Sea.

Currently, I’m working with my friends on a project to open an agency which will offer a wide range of services which will promote the true beauty of Montenegro. The idea is to go from a port agent, over a shipshandler and concierge to a tour operator all in one place.

Montenegro is located on the eastern coast of the Adriatic Sea. Now what Montenegro offers? It offers a beautiful blue sea, green mountains, Mediterranean culture, medieval towns, nightlife and rich national cuisine. Currently there is a project in the Bay of Kotor, which is the biggest and the safest bay in the Mediterranean, which involves the building of a marine that will have over 400 berths for all types of yachts and mega yachts.

Our goal is to offer you the best service you can get and in order to do that, please spare a few minutes to fill the following survey.

http://www.tigersurvey.com/survey.php?survey=10678

If you have any suggestions, they will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time.

Note: Here are some pictures and links to Montenegro.

http://www.visit-montenegro.com/













 
IMHO - Before you can expect ordinary cruisers to visit in any sort of numbers I believe that you should attempt to use any sort of influence you may have to get the very high cruising fees ( Fees table here ) reduced.

This will do more to attract cruisers to the country than anything else you may be planning to set up. The competion around Montenegro is stiff.

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I think you will find great resistance to entering any country which charges yachtsmen just to 'be there'. Apart from anything else, many cruising folk have taken to the sea to avoid bureaucracy such as this. Even without the charges, the requirement to register for a permit would put me off.

Do you charge tourists when they arrive by air or land? No, I don't think so.

Until this is sorted out, I think you are on a loser.
 
I agree. Montenegro would certainly be a destination for me as I'm based in the Adriatic, but there's no way I'm going to pay that sort of money for a few day's cruising.
I've noticed a trend of all the ex-Yugoslav countries towards fleecing tourists for all they're worth. Example: Slovenia introduced hefty motorway charges last year; there were only six-monthly and annual 'vignettes'. Six months cost €35. A bit rich if you're just doing the 10 km from Trieste to Koper to get to Croatia (and that's the point: Slovenia is 'taxing' tourists who go to Croatia). Brussels complained that this was discrimanatory against tourists visiting just once a year. So Slovenia has just brought in a monthly 'vignette' and a weekly one too. The monthly one costs €35!!!
So stuff 'em all. If I'm going out for a day, it's no longer to Slovenia. Tough luck on the restaurants who depend on people from Trieste for every month except August.
 
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Greece and Croatia still charge for cruising permits along with Montenegro.

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Your information is out-of-date, Greece, having been called to task by the EC only asks for a DEKPA (that for boats of over 11m, soon to be 12m) the admin cost for which is €0.88.
 
Looks lovely. Met a very very lovely lady on the Montengro stand at Monaco a couple of years ago. I think putting her picture up might attract some interest /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Paying to cruise there though hmmmmm. Probably not sorry.

As others have said, I sail to escape bureaucracy.
 
My answer is similar to the above.

Lose the rediculous cruising permit charges and I will be with you in September for 8 months? Keep the charges and Montenegro is another place I won't be visiting!!
Not everyone with a boat has money to burn so double your charges for boats over 24m (they are normally the ones that won't mind paying) and leave all the rest alone. Then you have a chance of cruisers coming to visit your beautiful coastline.
 
First of all i apologize for not replying until now but that's because we are dug with work.
Through the survey and your detailed and precious feedback we now see what our priorities are. Those would certainly include a way how to cope with high cruising fees. At the moment we are discussing on possible solutions to this issue. Some possibilities would involve using our contacts to reach for the minister of tourism of Montenegro and present him with a separate project which will adress your concerns regarding the high fees. Besides that we are also thinking to speak with all other, already established, agencies so we can make a petition to the ministry and urge them to reconsider lowering the fees or coming up with other solutions to the issue. It will take us some time to put the idea together but for that we will need your continuous feedback so we can say that people who are actualy sailing have interest to come to Montenegro but they are being held back with high cruising permit fees. I will get back to you with more info as soon as possible. After all, we also aim to increase the quality of nautical tourims in the region and thus, in Europe as well.

Once more, thank you.
Tom
 
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I will get back to you with more info as soon as possible. After all, we also aim to increase the quality of nautical tourims in the region and thus, in Europe as well.


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Nice idea but if by 'increase the quality of nautical tourims in the region and thus, in Europe as well' you mean 'give everyone a reason to hike up their prices again' well I think I'd prefer you not to even start! I for one am quite happy with the 'rustic' level of cruising in Greece.

Provide a fairly priced cruising ground, relatively free of bureaucracy with access to anchorages, clean water, reasonably priced stores and low cost restaurants and you'll find that yotties swarm in. They'll stay over winter, propping up the local economies and stretching the season. The secondary services will follow with local employment going up in step. A winning combination.

However the cynic in me says that the government will take the traditional route and keep the costs high in order to scrape it off. You will be faced with only the really rich who will swan in aboard 60' plus boats, bringing all they need with them and contributing little or nothing to the local economy ( apart from the really top restaurants and service providers who are already far removed from the 'general population' )

Or am I being just too cynical /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
What you could do is have a sliding scale of charges according to, for example, Nationality.

Thus:

English, Dutch and Scandinavians - No charges
Americans - X 2
French - X 3
Germans - X 5
Welsh and Scottish - X 10

I think that would work. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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Or am I being just too cynical


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Not a bit too cynical at all.............!

Montenegro is probably one of those places we should all visit to see it's splendour for ourselves, but not at the prices currently being charged. In the long term they will suffer if they are not already.

On the other hand maybe they just don't want us there and believe it to be the Monaco of the Adriatic.

Croatia with it's massive coast line and some 1200 islands in which to navigate, anchor and visit is better value by a long shot.
I suppose we can justify Croatia's cruising permit (which we have been quite willing to pay for over the last 2 years). It seems a pittance compared to Montenegro.
As much as we would like to visit Montenegro I'm pretty damn sure that it will be getting a wide berth from us this year.

Some people believe they can make a difference to local officialdom, but I think they have more chance of whistling a full chorus of Dixie though their backside!
There will be only reason it will change and that will be a financial one ! .............................So let us all be cynical!

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What you could do is have a sliding scale of charges according to, for example, Nationality.

Thus:

English, Dutch and Scandinavians - No charges
Americans - X 2
French - X 3
Germans - X 5
Welsh and Scottish - X 10

I think that would work. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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You sir are a chauvinist, and retribution will follow from the Cymraig National Army.
 
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