Dinghy Advice for a newbie

OP, I'm 46 years old, I've had 2 rounds of spinal surgery due to slipped discs, I'm a bit heavier and slightly shorter than you, and I've sailed/raced dinghies most of my life...including Mirrors, Toppers, Cherubs, 12 & 18 foot Skiffs, Foiling Moths, 49ers and my current dinghy fleet is a Fireball and an RS700.

With all due respect to this forum, it does tend to be yacht centric, with a slightly older demographic, and you will probably get very different advice on the yachtsandyachting.com forum (which, despite it's name, is very dinghy focussed).

Forget car topping, the end. You are far more likely to damage your back (and your car!) trying that...use a road trailer and launching trolley. The only dinghies you ever really see on car roofs these days are Foiling Moths (incredibly light) and Optimists (kid's boat).

Forget the Topper (kids' boat) and the Pico...it might keep you amused for a weekend, then you will be bored. It is essentially a kid's/youth boat. You are way too big.

The Laser/ILCA is NOT a fast scary boat. Granted it is quite physical, and will capsize reasonably easy on a windy day, however it is easy to reduce power with smaller sails. However they seem to fall into two camps second hand...very cheap old snotters, or newer vastly overpriced items compared to what you actually get for your money (bear in mind I paid sub £2k for my RS700...trapeze skiff with a gennaker, full Harken fit out and a carbon fibre rig plus combi trailer and lots of sails). However they are very popular, very quick to rig, very little to go wrong, and offer good racing (if that's where you wish to end up) at all levels. In fact, the reason they are often considered "racy" is due to numbers sailing, not performance, and slower boats offer closer, more competitive racing. They also make good "beach" boats.

I would not entertain anything wooden unless you prefer maintenance to sailing, and I'd ignore the Mirror. It's more of a father/child boat, and not actually very stable.

The Solo mentioned above is also a good bet, and often very popular with the older sailor as they are quite forgiving.

If your budget would stretch to it, an RS Aero is a good bet...available with three different rigs, light, simple and fast. However it will not be as "bombproof" as a Laser.

Also consider a Comet, a Solution, a Supernova, or a Lightning 368.

However, the absolute golden rule is buy something that is sailed at the club you intend to sail at...as a newbie you will get tons of advice and be able to progress so much faster (as well as making friends more easily) compared to turning up with something where you are the only person sailing one, and trying to figure it all out yourself. And this will inevitably often be a Laser/ILCA (as much as I dislike them!)
 
Thanks for all the replies, what a friendly forum!

I'm taking a laser out over the weekend and I will try the myriad of other suggestions if and when I get the chance. It is a bit tricky at the moment due to the current situation but hopefully I can have a crack at the other options some time soon. Thanks again!
 
Hi, and welcome to sailing !
There are SO many sailing dinghies to choose from, as this forum will have shown you.
So, in general : Dinghy sailing is the best of all sailing (that'll start a row !) ; but just for the sailing, there being many other aspects and factors.
It doesn't matter much which boat you choose, availability will probably decide that. But for a beginner of your size I think you should choose a boat around 12 feet long, preferably on the heavy side (less lively and therefore easier on your back), with a single-sail rig (no headsail/jib to manage) and a swinging centreboard not an up-down dagger board (which can be tricky for a beginner to manage). Find a sailing club to join, and keep the boat there in the trailer park to avoid towing or car-topping. The annual cost will be quite small. You'll then also gain much friendly advice from other members, access to a range of boats for sale when you want to upgrade (as you will) and a social side to your sailing ; not to mention well defined water to sail on, and probably safety boats and help with launching / recovery, etc..
Very best wishes. We're all here because we love sailing ; you'll probably love it too.
Rob.
 
Hi, and welcome to sailing !
There are SO many sailing dinghies to choose from, as this forum will have shown you.
So, in general : Dinghy sailing is the best of all sailing (that'll start a row !) ; but just for the sailing, there being many other aspects and factors.
It doesn't matter much which boat you choose, availability will probably decide that. But for a beginner of your size I think you should choose a boat around 12 feet long, preferably on the heavy side (less lively and therefore easier on your back), with a single-sail rig (no headsail/jib to manage) and a swinging centreboard not an up-down dagger board (which can be tricky for a beginner to manage). Find a sailing club to join, and keep the boat there in the trailer park to avoid towing or car-topping. The annual cost will be quite small. You'll then also gain much friendly advice from other members, access to a range of boats for sale when you want to upgrade (as you will) and a social side to your sailing ; not to mention well defined water to sail on, and probably safety boats and help with launching / recovery, etc..
Very best wishes. We're all here because we love sailing ; you'll probably love it too.
Rob.

Lots of good points, however I'd disagree with two!

There is absolutely no point in getting a heavy dinghy if you can get a light one! A light dinghy is far easier to manoeuvre on land, launch, and recover. It will be easier to right after a capsize, and most importantly it will be easier on your back when sailing, not the other way around! A light boat accelerates in a gust, a heavy one just loads up.

I'd also disagree with the centreboard vs. daggerboard point too. Granted, a centreboard will swing up if you ground it, however unless you are going Mach 9 in something made of cheese, a daggerboard boat is perfectly capable of taking a minor grounding without damage...hence why Optimists, Toppers and many other child's classes have daggerboards, as do thousands of watersports holiday fleet Lasers/ILCA's globally. A centreboard does introduce complications such as slot gaskets, tensioning devices to keep the board in the right place etc. If I was the OP I'd just go for whatever is popular and realistic at his chosen club, and the foil arrangements are really not important.
 
Forget car topping, the end. You are far more likely to damage your back (and your car!) trying that...use a road trailer and launching trolley. The only dinghies you ever really see on car roofs these days are Foiling Moths (incredibly light) and Optimists (kid's boat).

Add an RS Aero to that list. I didn't bother getting a road trailer for mine and the technique for getting it on the roof singlehanded is quite simple and stress free. Most of the time someone is happy to volunteer. I like the Aero a lot and love it's simplicity as a modern day laser, but it is noticeably more frisky than a Laser or Solo due to it's light weight (less than half that of a Laser/Solo).
 
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