Diesel treatments?? Any good (or bad)?

[bluedragon]

No idea if the engine has bore glazing or not, but I guess this must come with age?? I've heard of an additive that supposedly de-glazes the bores. Any info anyone?

As a related question, our Sabb 8 always runs very cool, in fact the engine temp guage barely registers until it's switched off. This is supposedly not good, but unless I almost close the inlet cock, it doesn't rise significantly. What actually happens (bad) to the cylinder liner? Is it glazing or something else, and why?

 

[Refueler]

The old system on Perkins before thermostats fitted was to close down the inlet water till just enough to maintain proper temp. My Perkins should have a Thermostat - but doesn't. I don't restrict water and it runs cooler. I'd rather that than all the salt deposits from hot seawater in the waterways !

 

[Bilgediver]

Self raising flour!!! But I DO NOT recomend it!

 

[rich]

Refueler,

That seems to be a lot of faffing around, when all you need is a drop of solly, /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Refueler]

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Refueler,

That seems to be a lot of faffing around, when all you need is a drop of solly, /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Since when has star / sol / xxx tron removed sediments ? All fuels before processing contain particulate that needs to be removed. Because I am mixing various grades that we use for blend ops - I need to filter out the particulate. One of them is dark heating oil which has a high particulate content that is unacceptable for most engines including my tractor 4-107 ! For a cost of less than 40 quid - I have a full working system that after ~ 1000 litres I just change a simple filter at a quid each. Note that I am playing with far more fuel than most on these forums do. My stocks at home run from antything 500 - 5000 litres depending on lab work. Why throw away time expired retention lab samples ? I also blend up for friends for their cars ... nice guy you see /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif , but of course that then is clean ULSD with various additives depending on season.

Removing dead bugs is a different matter - yes the filter system will do it, but I prefer they settle out. Use of some additives effectively dissolves the dead bugs into your fuel along with moisture. My personal - I repeat PERSONAL view is I don't like that idea, but its not based on any lab test / field trial, just my gut feeling.

So you plug on with Solly ... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'll switch on my pump /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'll be changing filters less often than you I reckon !

 

[hlb]

As others have said, it depends what the trouble is. None of them will mend a knackered engine. But then we don't know what the trouble is, also got know idea about the blend of fuel in the tank.

For bugs and smoke, Soltron works well. Also rejuvenated an old Toyota 4x4 and made it twice as fast. But some fuels have soltron added. And if not, some marinas add it.

But who knows whats wrong, or what will mend it. But it's worth a few doses of Soltron to see if it is effective. Dont expect it to start working, till it's done quite a few miles. A good burn from the CI's to Plymouth ferinstance.

 

[rich]

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So you plug on with Solly

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And I will keep on with it,Soltron is the name, not startron or starxxx over 10 years now I have used it, I have seen the results of using it, there has been so much crap said about it on here we gave up supplying it, we only supply now in 20 liters to many haulage companys worldwide and you will find it at many fuel stations in Europe and Jersey.putting it in small containers was a pain in the ass, you don't know, what your missing out on. (clean fuel.)

 

[Refueler]

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So you plug on with Solly

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And I will keep on with it,Soltron is the name, not startron or starxxx over 10 years now I have used it, I have seen the results of using it, there has been so much crap said about it on here we gave up supplying it, we only supply now in 20 liters to many haulage companys worldwide and you will find it at many fuel stations in Europe and Jersey.putting it in small containers was a pain in the ass, you don't know, what your missing out on. (clean fuel.)

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In fact I do know - myself and the additive blend company we work with, we work in tonnes not litres, looked at cocktailing additives to provide an effective agent for retail. Cost of product was way under any retail product then and now. But the packaging and distribution was a nightmare.
Our product to be honest would have shook the retail side up - as it was to a be one to cover all the usual requirements of a boater / transport user. Winterisation, Micro-bio contamination, water and sediments. A job we do in the industry.
It is interesting that unofficial tests we carried out on some retail products indicated they were not kind to cocktailing - some in fact failed completely when other additives already in the fuel from source were evident. This may explain some users experience.

Our suppliers are constantly in touch with us for updates on the blend of fuels, as this directly affects the additive. I doubt that retail products are adapted as often as ours ? Ours adapt literally on a monthly basis. No retail product could do that I reckon. It's also part of the reason we didn't pursue retail.

As to my fuel - being a direct fuel blender gives me an advantage over yourself and users - I know exactly what's going through the injectors. Each component has been individually tested for all relevant parameters, we discuss with the trader the possible blend ratios, bench test 4, 5, maybe 8x before a final blend is decided and loaded to a ship.
So when I empty samples into my drums ... I know whats going in and I can say straight - there is no retail additive capable of cleaning that fuel to any degree that comes near to my physical system. The only additive I know of is one we supply Refinery's and then that has to used in conjunction with circulation to distribute throughout the fuel - then left for 24 - 48 hrs to settle out the sed's / water etc.

The person in the street really has no idea of what goes on during fuel determination, they are fed BS by adverts etc., never is the real story told and it will never be. I cannot as I'm bound by commercial obligations and contracts. I try to steer in a roundabout way peoples use and knowledge of - but it's hard sometimes. Even now I am tripping a dangerous line.


Cheers
Nigel