Did we buy a mongrel? What is my boat (Mcwester Rowan Crown or a 27)?

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We have just brought our first family sailing boat and this is our first post in the forum as we need some help! Our new boat was sold as Macwester 27, built in the early 1980's and home finished in Guernsey.

Researching her before buying she seemed right though the internal layout never quite worked. As a home finished boat I thought this was just a bi-product of the owner's chosen fit out, which was well done and robust. Yet there were a few nagging doubts.

When beaching her for the first time we were delighted to see how good she was below the waterline, esepcially for a boat that had spent 35 years afloat and sailing the channel islands. We were also please to see that the keel, skeg and rudder setup was dead right for awhat we expected for our new Mcwester 27 . Givern her claimed age , launched 1983, I assumed that she was probably built by Atlanta or Trident Marine after Mcwester closed shop.

However, now she's out of the water we have finally got round to measuring her and it has become apparent that we're missing 3ft of boat! That then started us looking at the Mcwester Rowan Crowns and we started noticing features such as the stern boarding gate, covered up in ours (we assumed that this had been a discarded after build modification in ours), a fibreglass outboard mount , as well as the forward deck hatch and non-slip pads all being dead on for a Mac RC. And as soon as we noticed we realised that her name, Rowes N Crown, should have been a clue ! Though it was the original owner who gave her that name, he owned her for 33 years before she was passed on, but had formall registered on the Guernsey registery as a Mac 27, and I assumed had spent 35 years paying more in mooring fees than he should of!

What we're trying to understand is why we have the undersides of a Mc 27 and the topsides of a Mac RC? Was this something that was regularily done, or are we missing something?

We would be very grateful any light this forum's experts could shed on our mongrel. Please do understand we do lover her, and knowing she's shorter then advertised doesnt change what she is. She sails well , is safe, stable, well build and cheap and even has in mast furling which works!! Any help welcomed :)
 

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Did you not have or see any survey docs for her ?

My SR25 was sold as a Colvic 26 .... I knew that when I bought - but didn't want to upset seller who obviously loved the boat and only selling due to health.
He even had a Survey stating her as a Colvic 26 ..... as to the Surveyor - well known on South Coast (best not reveal name).

Once I had secured mooring with club - then had her measured by Club Bosun for letter to HM to put her in the up to 25ft fees instead of the over 25ft previous ... saved a lot each year.
 
Have you contacted the Macwester Owners Association? The keel arrangement shown in your photo is entirely different from that of the Rowan Crown that I knew, but that was a pre-1980 build. Are you certain it's a Macwester?
 
Have a look at the "Macwester Owners Association" site: Drawing Office « Macwester Owners Association
If it is 24ft, then its a Rowan Crown; but to my knowledge, they all had Long Keel and Bilge Plates. The boat in your picture has bilge keels!!.
Ring one of the Macwester association chaps who will be able to give you more information.
Macwesters are great yachts; I had a Macwester "Captain Fantastic" for many many years.
 
Thanks for all the feedback. A kind gent did a detailed youtube survey of her under the catchy title would you buy a boat this cheap, which obviously we did and are happy to have done so -
. The hull measurements and almost all the topside features match Rowan Crowns you can find on line, but the encapsualted bilge keel, skeeg and rudder are much more suited to a 26, 27 or 28.

Have now applied to join the Macwester association (if they will let us in) and will seek some further advice, I'm sure they can help one way or the other. Refuler's point about registation is my next headache as she's on the Guernsey SSR so I will have to see if I can persuade them to allow a change without a survey. There is no difference in Mooring charges her in Alderney but saving a few quid on trips to Cherbourg and Guernsey will be welcome!
 
Thanks for all the feedback. A kind gent did a detailed youtube survey of her under the catchy title would you buy a boat this cheap, which obviously we did and are happy to have done so - The hull measurements and almost all the topside features match Rowan Crowns you can find on line, but the encapsualted bilge keel, skeeg and rudder are much more suited to a 26, 27 or 28.

Until today I thought the Rowan Crown was little more than a stretched Rowan 22 and was only available with a long keel like the Rowan 22

I now think Trident may have offered a twin keeled version after they acquired the rights Probably very few were built.

I also see mention of an 8 m Rowan Rose ... I dont know how that fits in.
 
Until today I thought the Rowan Crown was little more than a stretched Rowan 22 and was only available with a long keel like the Rowan 22

I now think Trident may have offered a twin keeled version after they acquired the rights Probably very few were built.

I also see mention of an 8 m Rowan Rose ... I dont know how that fits in.

That seems to make sense, hopefully some one in the Macwesters assocition may know more. Thank you
 
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Refuler's point about registation is my next headache as she's on the Guernsey SSR so I will have to see if I can persuade them to allow a change without a survey. There is no difference in Mooring charges her in Alderney but saving a few quid on trips to Cherbourg and Guernsey will be welcome!

Not sure that there is any need to pay for a survey, if that is the only reason you want to amend the register. I've never known a HM to do anything other than accept your word for it. It's a bit different if you're going to be somewhere long term like your home mooring but even then I think most places will just run a tape measure over the boat to calculate LOA and leave it at that. Obviously if you turn up in a50 footer and try and claim it's 11.9m they will challenge !
 
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