Detailed Boat Show plan link.

[Concerto]

For anyone wanting to visit the Southampton Boat Show then this link to a detailed show plan might be useful. Please note the entrance is in a different place to the last show.

www.southamptonboatshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Overall-Show-Plan-27-Aug.pdf

For those who may be interested in meeting me on Concero, my Westerly Fulmar, and see the renovations I have made to bring her to her current condition which is close to "as new" despite being 40 years old. Concerto will be in berth M156. On the plan this is in the bottom right hand corner. For those visitors entering the marina, turn left and follow the pontoon round to almost the out side edge and you will see Concerto with a big Westerly sig,n close the Try a Boat section.

PS Concerto is NOT for sale, but if you ask this question, do not be surprised by my answer.

 

[Daedelus]

Must admit when I see the rules on entry and think of Guinness at more than £5 a pint I do wonder if I'll bother this year. (Would like to see Concerto tho', Fulmar's were one of the better boats Westerly built)

 

[Concerto]

(Would like to see Concerto tho', Fulmar's were one of the better boats Westerly built)

Tomorrow morning Concerto is dropped back in the water after 3½ weeks ashore. Still a few jobs to do to get her show ready. On Thursday I set sail for the Solent, expecting to arrive late on Friday as the wind forecast is very kind. Then I will complete the final jobs (repaint the decks, compound and polish the coachroof sides and cockpit, strip back to bare wood the engine cover and relacquer, fit the new fridge unit, complete fitting the new instrument consul and a new lockable cockpit cabinet) and then clean her inside and out. I do work hard. Today I applied 2 coats of antifouling, polished the topsides (after already wet sanding the topsides with 240 and 500, followed by coarse and fine compound) and half painted the boot top (run out of paint!). Overall Concerto will certainly not look like a 40 year old boat. I expect many people who come onboard will be inspired to try improving their own boat. I will be happy to answer questions in person on how to do some of the jobs - even if it is not a Westerly.

 

[Tomahawk]

Is it my imagination or is the show very much smaller than in the past?
It looks like the first section is no more than an alley way lined with stalls.

 

[Concerto]

Is it my imagination or is the show very much smaller than in the past?
It looks like the first section is no more than an alley way lined with stalls.

The entrance has moved and created this long corridor effect that leads to all the existing areas. So, not the show is actually larger now.

 

[ashtead]

You haven’t mentioned any testing for Covid as part of your preparations I see or are you just relying on 2 jabs evidence ? I ask as I wondered what risks of being infected by exhibitors if attending as I have my free tickets. Does each exhibitor have to undergo daily testing as part of show entry process ?

 

[Daedelus]

This is what they require:

• "Visitors will be required to undertake a lateral flow test within 48 hours prior to arriving at the show
• Visitors will need to order their lateral flow test kits in advance of the show. They can be ordered for free by clicking here, or you can pick them up in person at your local pharmacy (England only)
• Once you’ve taken your test, please log the result on the government website here. Your test result will then be available via the NHS App, email, or text
• To enter the Southampton International Boat Show, all visitors will be required to present a negative lateral flow test result (this can be displayed on the NHS App, via email or text) upon arrival at the gate
• Any visitor who fails to present a negative lateral flow test result when required will not be allowed to enter the show
• The NHS Track and Trace QR Code will be available to scan at all show entrances"

Taking no chances, (unless of course you lie).

 

[ashtead]

Thanks but this just seems to apply to visitors -how are exhibitors testing ? I assume some might just obtain a test and be rather cavalier in their approach to logging results ?

 

[Concerto]

You haven’t mentioned any testing for Covid as part of your preparations I see or are you just relying on 2 jabs evidence ? I ask as I wondered what risks of being infected by exhibitors if attending as I have my free tickets. Does each exhibitor have to undergo daily testing as part of show entry process ?

Been busy getting Concerto ready for the show, so hence the late reply. She was only launched yesterday and I am sailing in the morning for the Solent as the wind direction is excellent. Still a few jobs to finish once in the Solent including repainting the decks,

Exhibitors have to show a test before entering the showground. Then during the show you have to have 3 further tests during the show. I will also be testing for a couple of weeks after the show. It will be interesting to see how close the attendance is to the previous shows. Somehow I think many of the casual non boating gawkers may not come, along with quite a number of regular boating people due to fear of mixing with so many people.

As I will be outdoors most of the time and only a limited number of people out of all the show visitors will be entering Concerto's cabin, the risk will still be minimal in my opinion. Each evening I will be cleaning everywhere and all contact surfaces regularly during the day.

 

[Snowgoose-1]

UUnel

This is what they require:

• "Visitors will be required to undertake a lateral flow test within 48 hours prior to arriving at the show
• Visitors will need to order their lateral flow test kits in advance of the show. They can be ordered for free by clicking here, or you can pick them up in person at your local pharmacy (England only)
• Once you’ve taken your test, please log the result on the government website here. Your test result will then be available via the NHS App, email, or text
• To enter the Southampton International Boat Show, all visitors will be required to present a negative lateral flow test result (this can be displayed on the NHS App, via email or text) upon arrival at the gate
• Any visitor who fails to present a negative lateral flow test result when required will not be allowed to enter the show
• The NHS Track and Trace QR Code will be available to scan at all show entrances"

Taking no chances, (unless of course you lie).

Unbelievable. Good way to kill off a boat show I suppose.
S

 

[WoodyP]

Just out of interest, having spent stupid money on my Kingfisher, how much does Concerto stand you at? My view is that you only crystallize a loss on sale?

 

[bedouin]

UUnel

Unbelievable. Good way to kill off a boat show I suppose.
S

Pretty standard for any event these days - or even going to school. Not particularly onerous - the lateral flow test takes a couple of minutes to do (plus wait 30 mins for the result). I also presume it is pretty easy to fake the result and enter a negative test even if you haven't taken one. I guess it is a matter of honestly and revealing some people who didn't know they had it.

I don't think I will be bothering this year.

 

[Blue Sunray]

Good way to kill off a boat show I suppose.

Judging from the email that ASAP have sent out offering half price tickets to all and sundry someone has realised that this is what is happening.

 

[Snowgoose-1]

Thanks but this just seems to apply to visitors -how are exhibitors testing ? I assume some might just obtain a test and be rather cavalier in their approach to logging results ?

Pretty standard for any event these days - or even going to school. Not particularly onerous - the lateral flow test takes a couple of minutes to do (plus wait 30 mins for the result). I also presume it is pretty easy to fake the result and enter a negative test even if you haven't taken one. I guess it is a matter of honestly and revealing some people who didn't know they had it.

I don't think I will be bothering this year.

Yes. That's true I suppose.
Mostly outdoors though.
Shame

 

[Snowgoose-1]

Judging from the email that ASAP have sent out offering half price tickets to all and sundry someone has realised that this is what is happening.

I wonder what checks there are at the
Entry gates. Don't think I would like to man them for people who don't know the entry conditions.

 

[Lucy52]

I am sure they will be absolutely charming and disarm any aggression with tact and diplomacy.

It would be easy to offer a lateral flow test kit and ask them to wait aside for just thirty minutes for the result. Calm them down, earn an entry fee and get another person through the gate.

 

[Concerto]

Just out of interest, having spent stupid money on my Kingfisher, how much does Concerto stand you at? My view is that you only crystallize a loss on sale?

The renovations have cost about £26,000 on top of the purchase price of £21,500. I originally had a budget of £40,000 alocated for a boat, even though I could have bought a new 32ft yacht with all the extras. Instead I used the extra funds to buy a flat whilst my daughter was at university. She paid me a below market rent and I then made a £12,000 profit when I sold it However when I come to sell in about 10 years time, I feel I will have had lots of pleasure out of bringing Concerto back to a modern standard and immense pleasure in sailing her. I know I shall maintain the condition and when she is finally sold she will be a boat that will sell easily for an above market price due to her condition. She is currently insured for a fixed price above market value, but this may be revised upward after discussions with my insurer at the Boat Show as I know the gentleman concerned has had a number of long conversations on the phone about what has been done on Concerto.

On a different comment. If she was sold today I would have lost about £15,000 to £18,000, which seems a lot. However, if I had bought a new boat, what would the depreciation have been over 8 years? I suspect a lot more than £18,000 even in the current sellers market.

To be really honest. The money does not worry me. I have worked had all my life and intend to enjoy some of my money rather than hoarding it until finally realising you cannot spend it due to your age or infirmity. This is what has happened to my father in law in his mid 80's with his wife getting close to advanced dementure. They never took expensive holidays, never went out for a meal unless it was part of a large group, ran budget cars, bought a house in a popular part of town back in the 1970's and never moved and has spent little on it other than a new kitchen and bathroom in over 50 years of ownership, but he did built up a massive folio of shares and other investments - for what purpose? The tax man will get a sizeable chunk, so will all family members of different generations.

By the way which Kingfisher model do you have? My parent's first boat was a new Kingfisher 30 in 1965. I remember as a young boy visiting the factory and meet with Mr Nierop. Also met Chay Blythe in Poole with his Kingfisher 30.

 

[WoodyP]

The renovations have cost about £26,000 on top of the purchase price of £21,500. I originally had a budget of £40,000 alocated for a boat, even though I could have bought a new 32ft yacht with all the extras. Instead I used the extra funds to buy a flat whilst my daughter was at university. She paid me a below market rent and I then made a £12,000 profit when I sold it However when I come to sell in about 10 years time, I feel I will have had lots of pleasure out of bringing Concerto back to a modern standard and immense pleasure in sailing her. I know I shall maintain the condition and when she is finally sold she will be a boat that will sell easily for an above market price due to her condition. She is currently insured for a fixed price above market value, but this may be revised upward after discussions with my insurer at the Boat Show as I know the gentleman concerned has had a number of long conversations on the phone about what has been done on Concerto.

On a different comment. If she was sold today I would have lost about £15,000 to £18,000, which seems a lot. However, if I had bought a new boat, what would the depreciation have been over 8 years? I suspect a lot more than £18,000 even in the current sellers market.

To be really honest. The money does not worry me. I have worked had all my life and intend to enjoy some of my money rather than hoarding it until finally realising you cannot spend it due to your age or infirmity. This is what has happened to my father in law in his mid 80's with his wife getting close to advanced dementure. They never took expensive holidays, never went out for a meal unless it was part of a large group, ran budget cars, bought a house in a popular part of town back in the 1970's and never moved and has spent little on it other than a new kitchen and bathroom in over 50 years of ownership, but he did built up a massive folio of shares and other investments - for what purpose? The tax man will get a sizeable chunk, so will all family members of different generations.

By the way which Kingfisher model do you have? My parent's first boat was a new Kingfisher 30 in 1965. I remember as a young boy visiting the factory and meet with Mr Nierop. Also met Chay Blythe in Poole with his Kingfisher 30.

Thank you for your detailed reply. Very interesting and I share your mental approach but not your application and skill.
I have a K30s from 1972, possibly one of the last they made. Although dated as a family cruiser, she is easily sailed single handed or two up, and very capable as a seagoing boat, although not for the southern oceans, as Chay Blythe found out when trying to take Dytiscus on the Round the world. I suppose she stands me all in over the years including purchase about£25k. Value to me but not to a purchaser.
My father lived well, enjoyed his sport and spent his money. An example l am trying to follow ☺