Depsol - fuel enzyme additive

[[2574]]

I think it's Dom on this site that is the expert on this subject? If so, please Dom, can you advise of any problems that might exist if treated fuel is burnt through a diesel heater. Webasto and Eberspacher are windy about it, altho' not definitively against.

Thks

 

[byron]

Ol' Solly will I am sure back me up. I swear by the stuff and running it through a Webasto et al can only do it the world of good.

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[Piers]

Agreed - used the elixir for years on my boat (Princess V39), which had an Eberspacher as well. No problems.

Piers du Pré
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[DavidJ]

Didn't show up as being very effective at getting rid of fuel bugs in the November's MBM mag. Better products were Grotamar 71 and Fuelclear M68
David

 

[Nick2]

Where's Depsol ? I guess he's defected to RIB Forum............Please come back Dom

Nick

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[byron]

<font color=blue>I heard the test wasn't carried out to full effect due to budget restrictions, anyway there's tests and there's useage. Everyone that uses Soltron swears by it.

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[DepSol]

Yes no problems, reduces fumes so no nasty smell and also stops sooting up.

Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[DepSol]

I wouldnt read into that too much and BTW Soltron paid for the MIL filtration test the treated fuel went through a 0.8 micron filter 1.4 times quicker than untreated and this all done with a teardrop of Soltron.

All the bug tests should have had a filtration test after as it i no good killing the bug or neutralising the sludge if it just sits in your tanks it needs to break up and not clog your filters. Pity MBM ran out of funds on this project.

Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[[2574]]

Thanks Dom, I'll give it a go.

Rob

 

[DavidJ]

With the Grotamar 71 and Fuelclear M68 it didn't look as if the dead sludge was sitting at the bottom. It seemed to have completely dissapeared.

 

[Bejasus]

Can't remember for sure, but don't they just show the fuel in the bowls and not what remains lying in the bottom of the tanks? If just in the bowls, then we are talking very small quantities but if run thru from treated tanks, what's lying in the bottom of the tanks, waiting to be stirred up/disturbed?

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[DavidJ]

I believe the test was a laboratory test so contaminated diesel was put in jars and treated with various dosages against manufacturers recommendations and the results recorded.
It seemed very clear to me who the winners were.
David

 

[DepSol]

David totally up to but you may want to do a search for the previous threads when we talked about this on this forum.

Looks like you have made your mind up, I hope you dont ever get any contaminated fuel, but if your filters do get blocked and your engines stop then you cant say the guys on here havent told you so. It may be rare but has happened before. I heard the cost of pumping out tanks of approx your size is £400. Remember its not just about killing the bug its getting rid of the remains.

All the best.

Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[DavidJ]

No I haven't made up my mind. In fact I have a bias towards soltron because of this forum. I apologise if you have covered this a hundred times already but in the MBM test the fuel after 2 weeks with Soltron still looks very discoloured. Would this be ok to pass through an engine and in fact better than the samples that ended up clear.
David

 

[DepSol]

The reporting from MBM was not done in full and left open to debate. To be fair to Mark Turley he had a large number of additives to test and a restrictive budget in which to do it with. Any test doen should be reflective in the real life scenario.

In this case you fill up your tanks which end up with condensation or water in them and you get a microbial growth present in your tank. You discover this so buy brand x to treat it and get rid of it. Brand x must get rid of the bug that is present and then let you operate the engine as if it never happened, ie no trace of the contamination.

The test only cultured the microbial growth and then went as far as the treatment stage, what happens after this. The pigmentation represented the living cells and as far as the test was concerned all that was decided was what had died but what about the dead matter, what happened to it?

Soltron is an enzyme and is different to Biocide, some Hydrocarbon Utilising Microrgainsms can build up an immunity to biocides. Biocide in essence is a weed killer and as you know somw weeds dont die from some weedkillers and some die but keep coming back. Soltrons enzyme eats up thee bugs and when they hit the filters walls the disintergrate and pass through the filter and are burnt away thus removing them from the tank and in time with continued use ensures that the quality of your fuel is in tip top condition and any contaminated fuel that enters your system is quickly destroyed and burnt away.

Therfore, MBM tests were correct but not conclusive as Soltron works differently to biocide which they knew. Soltron also paid for the filtration test to be done (through a 0.8 micron filter which is a very fine filter) which showed that even in the small quantities of enzyme present in the teardrop of soltron added is enough to ensure that the bug in its present form (ie as you say the colouration didnt dissapear so it was still in its heaviest form), filtered 1.4 times quicker than the same cultured but untreated bug. MBM did not emphasise to their readers that this stage had taken place and did not give out these results.

Also in the latest edition of MBM they say that Soltron claim that there additive gets rid of the bug and we are testing this at this time, why then didnt they go back to the test information that we had paid for and ECHA had given the results to MBM. Its a bit dissapointing that this information was not made clear to the readers of MBM and Soltron has had negative comeback because of it.

I hope the current tests that they are undertaking are reported with proper facts and has been done following proper instructions.

Its a shame really as the people on this forum alone who have used it have found it to work and I have received only one complaint from one person so far that it did not reduce his smoke and he has agreed to try it again.

The decision is yours.

Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[DavidJ]

Dom
Really appreciate the effort that you have gone to to clarify the MBM tests. I hope others are following this thread and it isn't just me.
Ok I'm converted....where do I buy it. I'm in Birmingham which isn't renown for key side marinas but Suffolk is a regular haunt.
thanks
David

 

[DepSol]

Will PM you the details otherwise it is advertising.


Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

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Dom

Please will you send me details of suppliers too if you can. Thanks. Rob

 

[Renegade_Master]

You gonna put it in the Flemming then Piers?

 

[longjohnsilver]

Oi Depsol!

If you're talking of me and the no smoke reduction, well I didn't actually complain, more an observation really. Have been using it again for last 3 months or so, still don't see any less smoke but the engine does seem to be running smoother so guess I'll carry on using it!!

Now that's surprised you! ;-))