Delivery Portugal to essex

One problem is you can get 25 knot winds gusting 30+ around headlands and a two to three knot current against you. The gulfstream also runs down the Portuguese coast, it's usually a bit offshore, anyway I can assure you it is a total nightmare. If you do get that then plan B is sail off wind until you reach the westerlies and then turn for home reaching.

Yes we did that, had to go almost out to the Azores before we could make a board for the Channel.. coming up the coast sounds wrong by all accounts.
 
Yes we did that, had to go almost out to the Azores before we could make a board for the Channel.. coming up the coast sounds wrong by all accounts.

We were heading south, but met someone northbound who was doing it day sailing, leaving in the early hours and aiming to be at his next pit stop for lunch. Apparently the n'lies were much lighter overnight and in the early morning.
 
We were heading south, but met someone northbound who was doing it day sailing, leaving in the early hours and aiming to be at his next pit stop for lunch. Apparently the n'lies were much lighter overnight and in the early morning.

That was our plan for our aborted passage back to UK from the Med, but we were going in May before the northerlies really set in. Ran out of time and inclination so took a truck back from Spain.The coastal hopping is the alternative, enjoying the stops as much as the passage (or even more!), but slow. Alternative as suggested and what a delivery crew would probably do, is out towards the Azores first.

For the OP if he wants his boat back promptly in good order then truck is the way, and probably not much more expensive than delivery crew plus subsistence, fuel and berthing.
 
Why? What do you mean? The OP asked for suggestions. There will obviously be plenty of delivery companies and skippers cheaper than Halcyon.
Excellent 'form', actually.

Jerry, it was the If you would like someone more reasonable than Halcyon part of the post that prompted my comment. IMO that implies that Halcyon fees are unreasonable, and from most users of his services that would be far from the truth.

You've got your opinion - I've got mine
 
Obviously someone that works for themselves is going to be able to charge less than a company with overheads.. The only downfall from someone that isn't a company such as Halcyon is that he can only deliver one boat at a time..
It isn't a matter of slagging off Halcyon for whatever reason.
 
>We were heading south, but met someone northbound who was doing it day sailing, leaving in the early hours and aiming to be at his next pit stop for lunch.

When we tried it the winds were constant day and night.

>Apparently the n'lies were much lighter overnight and in the early morning.

You say apparently but you were going south and met somebody going north, they either did drop or didn't
 
We were heading south, but met someone northbound who was doing it day sailing, leaving in the early hours and aiming to be at his next pit stop for lunch. Apparently the n'lies were much lighter overnight and in the early morning.

Sounds like a good plan.

This is a very useful source of historical wind data..
http://aprs.fi/#!lat=40.50000&lng=47.50000

Look for a WX icon on the chart and click, in the pop up click '"Show weather charts" and you can filter by date. (choose the dates then press search)

A quick check in a few near the Portuguese coast clearly show the wind getting up after lunch and tailing off late evening, not every day but a lot of the time.



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One problem is you can get 25 knot winds gusting 30+ around headlands and a two to three knot current against you. The gulfstream also runs down the Portuguese coast, it's usually a bit offshore, anyway I can assure you it is a total nightmare. If you do get that then plan B is sail off wind until you reach the westerlies and then turn for home reaching.

Not a nightmare if you're not on a time schedule. We did the west coast up to Porto and back down again last summer, everything from a F8 on the beam to motoring in fog but an enjoyable cruise. Trick is to leave early and be prepared to motor quite a lot. Lots of anchorages and nice places to visit.
 
Jerry, it was the If you would like someone more reasonable than Halcyon part of the post that prompted my comment. IMO that implies that Halcyon fees are unreasonable, and from most users of his services that would be far from the truth.

You've got your opinion - I've got mine
reasonable
more reasonable
most reasonable

It's open to interpretation, no big deal really.
 
You say apparently but you were going south and met somebody going north, they either did drop or didn't

Apparently sounds plausible. They must've ended up having a conversation on shore. If they'd been sailing at the same time, so that Twister Ken could report on the early morning winds, they'd have just passed and waved to each other and YBW would have a few posts the less. :)
 
Apparently sounds plausible. They must've ended up having a conversation on shore. If they'd been sailing at the same time, so that Twister Ken could report on the early morning winds, they'd have just passed and waved to each other and YBW would have a few posts the less. :)

They were across the finger from us when we arrived late afternoon. We talked. They were not there the following morning when I got up to put the kettle on at about 0730.
 
>leave early and be prepared to motor quite a lot. Lots of anchorages and nice places to visit.

We stopped at many places on the way down so had no reason the stop again. Motor quite a lot... aargh horrible thought, we had a sailing boat.
 
We did UK to Cascais and the return passage a few years ago. Yes, leave at first light and be prepared to motor and tuck in somewhere in the afternoon if/when the Northerlies pick up. But certainly be prepared too for big wind increases near headlands if going coastal. Our trip back, in mid-August was pretty uneventful apart from lobster pots in substantial depths and fuel shortage in Biscay itself when becalmed.
 
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