Decking advice

[Gludy]

I am going to replace the teak on my flybridge - its a Fairline Squadron and uses the teak over ply type of decking.

Advice on who is a good supplier appreciated. I realise that I will have to have thin plywood templates taken and some photographs would no doubt be handy to show the layout.

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[AIDY]

Just going down the same route. being do some homework at SIBS

KJ Howells and sons
Cobbs quay marina
Hamworthy
Poole
Dorset
BH15 4EL
Tel 01202 665724

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.k.j.howells.dial.pipex.com> Howells </A> All the info you need and very helpful guys.

They sell the teak/ply in sheet form if you are going to do it yourself about 400 pounds for a sheet 2.5m x 2m. Or they can make the proper solid teak panels up for you.

Other options are

Moody Teak decking Contact Martin fox 01489 885000 can supply similar to above.

Or Flexiteek

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.goldenarrow.co.uk> flexiteak </A> Bit like laminate flooring the way it goes together.

Or <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tek-dek.co.uk/index.html> tek-dek </A>

Happy deck laying

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[KevB]

I fitted tek dek to my last boat. fairly easy to lay and looked fantastic.

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[lyc]

We also fitted Tek-Dek and are very pleased.

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[jfm]

plywood?

Call fairline (michael douse, after sales help) and askim the original supplier, then call them, they may have original templates.

Are you sure you want teak over ply? Suggest just get 5mm solid teak. Our squadron has this, no ply, so the teak is bonded direct to the GRP. It still comes in sheets with all the black lines neatly done. This way you get more teak thickness, so can sand if needed, and the edges are nicer/less prone to rot becos no plywood edge

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[ChrisKaye]

Got to admit, it looks vey nice !
Thats one of my projects for this year. I was going to have a go on the bathing platform of mine as a trial and if that worked out OK, I will do the rest.
Only thing is, the bathing platform has a teak grid thing there at the mo, which must be around 15mm thick and this tek-dek is only @ 5mm thick, so what do I use underneath it ? Ply will warp and buckle, or do I fill it full of adhesive, in which case its going to be pretty spudgy and I won't be able to apply the required pressure to make it stick down


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[KevB]

You could try using marine ply, cut it to the correct shape, take it home and fit the tek dek to it in the comfort of your garage. Then back to the boat and stick the ply to the bathing platform. You could try ringing tek dek as they are very helpful and see what they suggest.

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[tcm]

Re: sheets of teak? Really?

erm, if it comes in sheets, it can't be a single piece of wood. It's either individual thick strips of teak, or individual thinner strips of teak attached to a substrate and then stuck on the deck. Under no circumstance wd they get a piece of thin teak several feet wide and cut grooves innit cos it would warp and/or be v expensive and or be totally shite as well as nearly impossible/spensive to find big wide lumps of nice teak.

If you have sheets sitting proud, and a nice edge as well, then you have teak-faced ply edged with a real piece of teak 5mmm thick, to make if look as though it solid all the way thru. You wd never have a plywood edge as you describe cos it wd look ghastly.

If gludy has a squaddie, and so does jfm, then i wd guess they are made the same way.

One way to find out is to look and see if there are any really narrow bits anywhere - if from a sheet this is no prob but if teak planks then it'd be a right bodge and they wd adjust the widths somehow.

Another way is to look for v ery even black bits in the main area (where the sheet is preformed) but then the adjustment is made in the black bit between the outmost piece and the next one in - the join between the teakfaced ply and the real bit of wood at the edge, which is the only place the manufactuers has any adjustment.

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[BarryH]

Re: sheets of teak? Really?

Its all a bit academic really isn't it. Lets face it you wouldn't have bare floorboards at home would you, no. You'd go to Carpet Right and see what offers they have on and cover the nasty floorboards with a bit of Axminster twist wouldn't you. Haggle a bit and you'd get the underlay and grippers thrown into the deal.
Personally can't see the point in lashing out a few million in spare change and putting up with bare floors. Bung a bit of Floatex down and make it all comfy to walk on. B&Q always have a few offcuts going cheap.

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[KevB]

Re: sheets of teak? Really?

Also, if it's a single sheet, the edge "pieces" would have the grain in the wood running in the same direction as the rest.

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[jfm]

Re: sheets of teak? Really?

No no no, sorry I didn't explain maybe.

The deck on our boat is made of loads of 5mm strips of teak, a full 5mm thick, glued/caulked edge-to-edge. It is supplied to fairline in "sheets" ie all the 5mm thick teak strips are pre-caulked and sanded to create a sheet. There is no backing plywood, so it is all floppy when supplied as the caulking is rubbery. Fairline then stick it down in sheets.

You mention thicker strips of teak along edges to hide the ply. Some boats have this but not squaddies are not done this way, it is teak all the way thru. I have drilled holes in ours, including dilling with a 2inch holesaw to 4mm or 5mm depth, then chisle out, to let in stainless steel fittings into the deck and it is absoloutely certianly solid teak, no backing ply or sheet material.

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[Gludy]

The teak in my cockpit is as new and comes up after cleaning looking new.

The weathering the bathing platform and flybridge gets means that teak is more weathered. I can get the bathing platform looking good but parts of the flybridge have now started to lift and its time to replace.

Because of the weathering the flybridge takes, is suppose it would be more sensible to fit Tek-Dek as this would really last and take the pounding. Just a little concerned that it woll look very different to the real untreated teak in the cockpit etc. But I am thinking about it.



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[tcm]

Re: sheets of teak? Really?

Hm well, i stil don't quite believe you. Kindly hack out a big lump from the middle of the deck (which would be the telltale) and print some pix.

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[KevB]

I must admit that I didn't keep my boat for very long after I fitted the Tek Dek so I can't tell you how well it weathers. I imagine that over time (don't know how much time) the plastic would become smooth with wear but Tek Dek can be sanded to roughen it up again.
When I fitted it to my boat the idea was fairly new and they only sold it in rolls one plank plus the corking wide. I believe they now sell it on a roll up to five planks wide plus all the corking lines in between. This will make it soooo much easier to fit as I had to use loads of tin cans to hold the strips down whilst the glue dried.
I think Sealine use Tek Dek on one of their boats bathing platforms, the one with the bathing platform that lowers into the water.

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[jfm]

Re: sheets of teak? Really?

Hummmph. I did hack out big lumps from middle of bathing platform, wiv a chisel, 24 hours after we paid for the boat, as the Peters guys in chichester looked on and wondered what's he doing. I also hacked out the kitchen hob the day after delivery and replaced it with a proper one. Unfortunately no digipics or other traceable witnesses mlud. ....

Anyway, that new spiral staircase of yours, you sure it's stainless? Praps it is mild steel with lots of WD40 to keep it shiney, or mild steel with a thin electroplate coat of stainless. Suggest you hacksaw a slice and post a cross section pic

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