Deben and Ore entrance chartlets 2015

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Imrays have now drawn chartlets for the Deben and Ore river entrances, approved by Trinity House, and they are available to download from the ECP website.
John White's extra buoy at the Deben entrance has become a permanent one, called 'Knoll Spit'.
Looks rather shallow in places! John mentioned to me that fishing boats can't get in and out around LW, and that's not surprising....
 
Cantata said:
Imrays have now drawn chartlets for the Deben and Ore river entrances, approved by Trinity House, and they are available to download from the ECP website.
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Thanks very much for those
I hadn't realised just how challenging the Deben has become.

With a forecast negative surge of 0.2m to subtract from tomorrow's 0.6m low water at the bar
it sounds like it's a good time to go have a look and perhaps fulfil my ambition of walking to Bawdsey.
 
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Yes, informed today that Oxley and Weir are in place for approaches to River Ore. Aldeburgh Lifeboat have reported shallow channel. What I don't understand is surely the mass of water has to find its way out of this huge river? Every year there are stories of limiting depths but this river has been accessible for at least 200 years, but I doubt there are accurate records of channel depths? At a metre draught I think I will be OK and take my chances.
 
There's an icon for downloads to the fourth edition of ECP but it doesn't seem to link to anything. Are there any updates as yet? Got the Deben chartlet so thank you.
 
There are a couple of updates to come (the Knoll Spit buoy being one of them!) but I need to spend a hour or two sorting out the site and hiding the 3rd Ed updates. Busy trying to get my boat ready.....will do in the next day or three. Can't get the staff, you see. :cool:
 
Nice bright shiny 4th edition on the boat now.......will print the updates when they are ready and cross my fingers we get the right weather for sailing. THanks for the hard work!
 
BEWARE! We left today at half tide across the bar and several times were down to 1.8m of water, not beneath the keel, it would have been madness to turn around so we plugged on, last year I never saw less than 2.5m at half tides. Fortunately the sea was the smoothest but any waves and we might have hit bottom. It's a real pain because much later than half tide gives little flood to get anywhere decent up the other rivers unless you motor hard. As it was we had a brilliant cruising chute run up the Orwell.
 
Lazy Kipper said:
BEWARE! We left today at half tide across the bar and several times were down to 1.8m of water, not beneath the keel, it would have been madness to turn around so we plugged on, last year I never saw less than 2.5m at half tides. Fortunately the sea was the smoothest but any waves and we might have hit bottom. It's a real pain because much later than half tide gives little flood to get anywhere decent up the other rivers unless you motor hard. As it was we had a brilliant cruising chute run up the Orwell.
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Hear what you say but I have come to the conclusion the the imperative on crossing the Ore / Alde, Deben bars is actually crossing them rather than catching the best tide. I'd rather have a longer passage or have to motor than get stuck on either. Get as close as possible to HW - 1 hr is my preference.
 
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Lazy Kipper said:
BEWARE! We left today at half tide across the bar and several times were down to 1.8m of water, not beneath the keel, it would have been madness to turn around so we plugged on, last year I never saw less than 2.5m at half tides. Fortunately the sea was the smoothest but any waves and we might have hit bottom. It's a real pain because much later than half tide gives little flood to get anywhere decent up the other rivers unless you motor hard. As it was we had a brilliant cruising chute run up the Orwell.
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Which river? Deben?
 
Looking at the new Ore chart, just NW of North Weir Point, there's a charted depth of 0.4 showing inside an area bounded by the 2 metre line. Is this some sort of isolated high spot, or a misprint/typo, or am I just misunderstanding something (a common occurrence)?
 
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Many thanks for these, your timing is perfect as we're heading North tomorrow for our new mooring at Felixstowe Ferry.

Looking at the charts makes me wonder if a new channel may be opening up to the North, where I recall it was for a while many years ago.
 
Tia said:
..........Looking at the charts makes me wonder if a new channel may be opening up to the North, where I recall it was for a while many years ago.
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We wondered that as well. Maybe that's the reason for the extra survey mentioned on the ECP site.
And...the relevant Trinity House NtM has come out this evening, it appears that the Horse Sand buoy from upstream of F.Ferry has been pinched to use as the Knoll Spit. May be wrong about this, trying to get it checked.
 
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Don't think so. Not the line I'm looking at anyway - it's marked with a 2 (look SE of the Pillbox).
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Yes, you're right, I was looking in the wrong place! Strange that. Wouldn't get that on one of my charts! ;)

But I suspect the contour line around the 'outside of the 0.4 should be 1m, not 2m and the 2m contour should have circled back a bit to the north.
 
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Cantata said:
....the relevant Trinity House NtM has come out this evening, it appears that the Horse Sand buoy from upstream of F.Ferry has been pinched to use as the Knoll Spit. May be wrong about this, trying to get it checked.
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And indeed, the Horse buoy marking the horse sand just above Felixstowe Ferry is no longer there, and will not return.
 
tillergirl said:
Yes, you're right, I was looking in the wrong place! Strange that. Wouldn't get that on one of my charts! ;)

But I suspect the contour line around the 'outside of the 0.4 should be 1m, not 2m and the 2m contour should have circled back a bit to the north.
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There isn't a 1m contour line anywhere, there is 0m - junction between brown and white - 2m and then 5m. It seems the 0.4 depth is either a typo or an isolated lump, it would be nice to know which. :eek:
 
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