CV19 restrictions on boat on private mooring

JD, you point out that they have managed to stop the disease in Hubei, but then you have to recognise that nowhere in the world the measures taken are as strict as in Hubei. Wuhan is still in lockdown

Up to a point. Yes, they have had some very draconian measures, but I gather there has been flexibility and responsiveness too, and in Hubei restaurants and bars are now open again, albeit for just a couple of hours a day.

It may well turn out that draconian action is simply necessary

It's not working in Italy. I'm sure we'll find out why in due course, and that doesn't rule out the possibility that it might work elsewhere.
 
I'm currently in self isolation, having come down with a temperature the other night. All fine now, but that's us for the next fortnight.
Frustratingly, my co-workers seem oblivious to the implications of this. They turned up outside my house to pick me up for work the morning after I had reported my temperature.

What makes this virus so deadly is that it can be carried asymptomatically by a significant portion of the population. Too many people are saying 'I feel fine, so I'm going to carry on as normal', and thus it keeps spreading. The correct attitude is to assume that you have the virus and not do anything that could spread it to others. We are way behind where we should be with lockdown.

I'll refrain at this point from commenting on what I think of the UK Government's response to the crisis, but you can probably work out the gist of it.
 
It's not working in Italy. I'm sure we'll find out why in due course, and that doesn't rule out the possibility that it might work elsewhere.
JD its much too early to suggest it's not work here in Italy , part of the north have been shut some weeks now but the rest of us we just in our second week.
It's been made clear there probably won't be any signs of it slowing down for some weeks to come, maybe mid April.
If you can believe what have been said that once you have it , it takes two weeks for recovery and then you could have it five days before any symptoms so say someone who have no symptoms just as the lock down started the be three weeks before they recover or worst , pass away.
I know you all back home are not happy with any lock down and most think it's over the top, but if something isn't done to stop this virus then the out come going to be much worst then any lock down.
I hope to god everone family here get through it with the min of discomfort,
 
Of course, but that means that the Italian numbers shouldn't be taken in isolation either. There may be other factors - genetic? demographic? social? - there which cause a higher infection and or death rate. The concentration of cases so that some hospitals are overwhelmed and other barely affected will have an effect as well.

I agree completely about the difficulty in assessing the number of cases. Alas only dead bodies are unarguably countable.
Even they are awkward. We are telling the government about Covid deaths locally only when the results come back from labs up to a week after death.
 
if people see others following the rules perhaps those that ignore them may follow suit.

Sorry remind me what rules or even advice you're talking about which someone would be violating by single handed sailing from their own mooring? A link would suffice.
 
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Sorry remind me what rules or even "advice" you're talking about which someone would be violating by single handed sailing from their own mooring? A link would suffice.
My original comment was about if the Government was to lock down the country in order to help contain the virus, then sailing would probably fit into the catagory of non essential movement. Hence the above comment on if those rules were in place then it would be prudent to follow the advice of the government and help stop this. I think because of all the replies on here, people are being mis quoted or mis understood. Hope that clarifies what I'm on about.
 
I've always wondered why some people got "The Plague" and some didn't . That was a real illness. Felt lousy at breakfast - dead by tea time.

It can't just be heredity. I would guess that our western diets and lifestyles don't produce enough decent nourishment to keep our immune systems up to scratch .

It's quite refreshing that us humans can't control everything with an algorithm or a potion. No doubt we will learn from this and probably just carry on as we normally do.
 
People, it's even worse than the media are suggesting. More than 600,000 hard working brits died last year, and that's even before this latest virus. I blame the government, the NHS, and the illuminati. If people were not being born, the whole human race could end.
 
For now I am continuing to get the boat ready to launch early April, and unless severe restrictions are brought in then I shall be using it to sail locally and anchor out of the way. Basically it’s isolation afloat and with uninhabited islands upon which to stretch the legs. . . . . . . . Hopefully it will be okay

Have there been any reported cases of the virus on the islands?
 
We should be awake to the possibility that the Italians are doing something very wrong or, alternatively, that there is something very different about the Italian situation which may require a very different response. As of two minutes ago

Italy: 35,713 cases, 2,978 deaths. 8.3% dead.

Germany: 12,343 cases, 28 deaths. 0.23% dead

There may be a rather simple explanation of the Italian epidemic.

Northern Italy is the real centre of the world’s “rag trade”. This means that some towns and cities there have particularly large numbers of people from Mainland China. This is not the same thing as a population of Chinese people who are settled citizens. An awful lot of Chinese residents of Northern Italy went home for Spring Festival...

QED.
 
Northern Italy is the real centre of the world’s “rag trade”. This means that some towns and cities there have particularly large numbers of people from Mainland China. This is not the same thing as a population of Chinese people who are settled citizens. An awful lot of Chinese residents of Northern Italy went home for Spring Festival...

QED.

Yes this has been pretty under speculated, despite quite a bit of historical press about it The Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Tuscany. First I saw putting 2&2 together were lunatics on twitter a month or so back, similar with quite a lot of information around the current situation.
 
I think you will find that is the 10,000 + Armed forces that are being readied for deployment at 48 hours notice
That's one per 10 square miles of the UK . If they do three shifts per day x 7 days a week that's one every 30 square miles . If they work in pairs that's one pair every 60 square miles.
A pretty thin spread.
 
Until you have the testing resources in place, you have to lock down. What other option do we have?
My poorly made point is that lockdown is a very crude tool which appears to work in small Italian towns about as well as it does on cruise ships, ie "not at all". That place was small enough to identify the small number of actual carriers and isolate them completely rather than limit and awful lot of people a bit. The same strategy has worked pretty well in Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong.
 
Not sure if that comment is in good taste. Complacency about the seriousness of this is the reason why we are on the back foot.

The current hope of the CMO is that we can keep the number of coronavirus deaths to about the same as the number of unnecessary deaths caused each year in the UK by air pollution. We're complacent about a lot of things at the moment ...
 
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