Cruising to Holland

Its a challenge i've set myself, one boat at a time..... one day we will educate those overcharged southerners about where the best sailing in the UK is... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif (but hopefully not too quickly....)

We'll try to make the Deben BBQ that Clive is organising... see you there hopefully
 
I do wish someone would tell me what a shengan form is. I thought there was supposed to be freedom to travel through the EU.

Have I missed something

What is it for

Why can they fine you for not having one

Where do you get one from

I've been to Holland many times by car and by air and no-one has ever mentioned these things.

Confused.
 
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I do wish someone would tell me what a shengan form is. I thought there was supposed to be freedom to travel through the EU.

I've been to Holland many times by car and by air and no-one has ever mentioned these things.

Confused.

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Do a search and you'll find previous posts on this.

Briefly, if memory serves, UK didn't sign up to Schengen agreement so theoretically has to provide crew lists at ports of entry.

Didn't sail to Holland last year but the year previously we tried to register crew lists at Middelberg but they didn't want to know.

It was only after we explained that four crew had arrived but only two would be sailing back (two returning early by ferry) that they agreed to take Schengen forms and forward them "somewhere appropriate". /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Wise move may be to download forms off the internet as we did 2 years ago and ask what the current situation is regarding them on arrival.

Hope this helps,
Paul.
 
You can download them from the RYA website.
http://www.rya.org.uk/KnowledgeBase/boatingabroad/customsformalities.htm
You need one for Holland & another for Belgium.
It's just a list of crew members really. You are seldom asked for them but as it's really simple to complete, why not do it.
You are really supposed to deposit them with the harbourmaster at your first port of call, but can seldom get anyone interested in taking them. Having them on board has been sufficient to satisfy officials when I've been checked.
 
Yes, I agree with that - about Schengen - except we were asked about them twice last year (although never before that), so I wondered if they were getting more concerned about them. It's no bother, so you might as well do them.

In general, though, the RYA site gives details of what you need for what country.

We had a fascinating guided tour round a customs vessel in Langeroog a couple of years ago at their boat show - super, well equipped boat + RIB. I asked what they were looking for, mainly - illegal immigrants, drugs? The customs officer mumbled something about VAT on imported boats and Schengen forms.

Back to the original question, though. No one has been interested in ICC, CEVNI, Wateralmanaak (?).
 
Never been stopped or asked anywhere in Belgium or Holland for any of the things they say you should have. Doesn't mean that some jobsworth won't one day pick on us I suppose!
 
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We were boarded at the Roompot last year and they took half an hour to check our papers .............They only stopped , after saying they were going to fine us €500 if we could not show them pre-completed schengen forms................


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They must have been having a bad day!
I was asked for Schengen forms at Nieuwpoort in Belguim a couple of years ago - armed but friendly police. I showed them our forms printed from the RYA site, they grinned, said they were out of date forms, and filled in new ones for us, all very sociable.
 
I'm a bit confused - aren't you suppose to hand the form in when you get to your first port, in which case if you have a spot check wont you then not have the form? Or are you supposed to do 2?
 
Ok - one to first port of call, one for the boarding party, and the third for?

Can't see the information on the RYA website. Presume it is in the book which you have to pay for!

Perhaps it is in the almanac. Will have a look when next on board.
 
Some Facts

ICC needed in the Netherlands?
NO, unless your boat is over 15 metres (not 20) and/or able to go faster than 20 kmh.
I own a Nicholson 48 and do not need an ICC.

You DO need to carry the text of the regulations of traffic on waterways, which is rediculous, really, because it's all in Dutch. Everybody will tell you to buy Part 1 of the Almanak voor Watertourisme by the ANWB (Dutch Touring Club) but if you do a good search you can find them on the internet and download them. Saves you a tenner which you can spend on charts.

If you need any specific info, ask and I may be able to find out.

cheers
and welcome to our country (hope summer will be as good as last year's)
 
Re: Some Facts

Thank you, and also everyone else for your advice.
I have just recieved confirmation from the RYA. no certificate required under 15mtr and less than 11knts.
Cheers, Jen.
 
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