Crew of Quest shot dead

[Deleted member 36384]

I have been googling away and the poor submarine appears to come out the worse for wear when it encounters MTBs, which is the only speedboat link I can find. The sub is either destroyed or dives and runs away to avoid the MTB.

There was an interesting story of an American test torpedo chasing a civilian speedboat, no details, just a recollection.

 

[maxi77]

I have been googling away and the poor submarine appears to come out the worse for wear when it encounters MTBs, which is the only speedboat link I can find. The sub is either destroyed or dives and runs away to avoid the MTB.

There was an interesting story of an American test torpedo chasing a civilian speedboat, no details, just a recollection.

That of course is why boats used to have deck guns, I served on one with a 20mm Oerlikon, and was there for the dress rehearsal for the last 4" gun firing from an RN submarine. Such deck guns were used to great effect against all forms of small craft and were last used operationally by the RN against the Indonesians during the 'Confrontation' back in the 60s

 

[Ubergeekian]

I missed that. Can you link to their post.

Post singular it was.

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2766190 is the thread.

 

[capnsensible]

It probably mythed!

 

[Stork_III]

I missed that. Can you link to their post.

Here but not informative. http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2766190#post2766190

 

[Major Catastrophe]

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2766190 is the thread.

Nice to hear from them.

They may have been back here earlier if..........

 

[Woodlouse]

They may have been back here earlier if..........

........they never went there in the first place?

 

[TipsyAdmiral]

if you point a gun at someone expect to get shot
carry a gun and you may use it to shoot someone
I had american bible basher pointing a gun at me in a marina

send in team america is that the answer!
foxtrot yankee

 

[bedouin]

There were several people here who said quite forcefully that it would have been better for the RN to attack the Chandlers' yacht, even if they died as a result. They were surprisingly silent when the Chandlers posted here later on.

In the abstract - had the RN recaptured the Chandlers' yacht, even if there were casualities, then that might have avoided this incident.

There is a bit an paradox in that if the pirates (or kidnappers) believe that they can use hostages as a human shield that embolden them to take greater risks and that in turn puts more people at risk.

 

[Clarky]

In the abstract - had the RN recaptured the Chandlers' yacht, even if there were casualities, then that might have avoided this incident.

There is a bit an paradox in that if the pirates (or kidnappers) believe that they can use hostages as a human shield that embolden them to take greater risks and that in turn puts more people at risk.

I agree and I remember watching the Chandlers interview and they themselves were unsure if they would have preferred the Navy to take action,rather than what they did, than them endure what they eventually had to put up with. They certainly werent saying oh its great the Navy did nothing.

 

[shaunksb]

"A member of a U.S. special operations force killed one of the pirates with a knife as he went inside of the yacht, said Vice Adm. Mark Fox, commander of U.S. naval forces for the Central Command.

Fox said in a televised briefing that the violence on Tuesday started when a rocket-propelled grenade was fired from the yacht at the USS Sterett, a guided-missile destroyer which was 600 yards away. The RPG missed and almost immediately afterward small arms fire was heard coming from the yacht, Fox said."

It seems to me Mr Fox's version of events is peppered with inconsistancies.

I am concerned he is releasing bit's of information in a way that has all the hallmarks of a botched operation.



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[sarabande]

Capnsensible

no-one said the boat had to stay on the surface...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha4X-lQlwNA

 

[webcraft]

What a stupid thing to say, new to the forum, you'll get lots of respect with **** like that

Sadly he'll probably find plenty of pals

- W

 

[snooks]

Tipsyadmiral has gone to the land of the banned, everyone wave bye bye

 

[sailorman]

Thank you
its good to see the Red triangle works

 

[snooks]

Thank you
its good to see the Red triangle works

I saw the posts before I got any reporting Emails, but the red triangles do work. All moderators get an notifying email when someone reports a post....Now, when we pick up that Email

 

[ARO]

That is so sad.

.... or a few years in a centrally heated or air conditioned cell enjoying 3 square meals a day and cable television at worse.

Considering the fact that they killed US citizens and were caught by US forces they may well face capital punishment.

 

[snooks]

Considering the fact that they killed US citizens and were caught by US forces they may well face capital punishment.

All 13 of them?

 

[maxi77]

In the abstract - had the RN recaptured the Chandlers' yacht, even if there were casualities, then that might have avoided this incident.

There is a bit an paradox in that if the pirates (or kidnappers) believe that they can use hostages as a human shield that embolden them to take greater risks and that in turn puts more people at risk.

Considering the driving forces behind this piracy that is unlikely, pirates have been captured or killed in several incidents with little slow down in their activity. Equally some die at sea without military intervention but still new pirate join the trade.

The only permanent solution is to close down the shore bases they operate from and that means the restoration of law and order. I fear that is still a long way off.

 

[LadyInBed]

Oh God, send someone to rescue us, but PLEASE be they not Americans