Creosote question (non boaty)

real creosote is still available for "expert use"----try an agricultral fencer or farmer----regards lenten
 
Try going to your local Farmers' Store. The Company I used to work for in Cornwall still has genuine Creosote, in 20 litre (I think) containers. It's about £50 per container, so not cheap. The substitutes are, in my mind, rubbish, and like most 'substitutes, has to be re-applied much more often, just like weed killers and the like. So not really that 'Green'.

And I also dilute Creosote with used engine oil for use on my wooden gates.

Dark creosote is available from Mole Valley Stores (previously central wool growers) in 25litre drums. Says "for professional use only" and when I asked they said they would have no problem selling to me.
 
Dark creosote is available from Mole Valley Stores (previously central wool growers) in 25litre drums. Says "for professional use only" and when I asked they said they would have no problem selling to me.

Kind of you to publish and draw attention to their disregard for the The Creosote (Prohibition on Use and Marketing) Regulations. If someone from the HSE reads this I expect thy will thank you in their own way.
 
If I had a property grand enough for it's own bridge, I wouldn't be asking this lot about how to preserve it. They can't even decide on which varnish to use!
 
Wet and air causes rot.

Can you improve the ventilation?

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Or can you keep the wet away? This method priects fence posts at the vulnerable point with shrink wrap plastic.
 
Last time I was in Wickes they had creosote but it was in 20 litres Far better than this c-ap they are selling now.I,ve just painted a garden arch with Cuprinol got some on my hands and it washes off easily.So when it rains it will also!!
 
To buy creosote you will need (or know someone who has) an "Agricultural Holding Number". It is then legal and straightforward...

Sleepers and telegraph poles are/were steeped under great pressure in creosote - further application to my mind would be pointless - unless cutting into virgin timber. Cut through a telegaph pole and the pentration can be seen to be >1.5".

With regard to longevity of tar based penetraion, 100+ year hull planks I removed that had for many years in the early 20th C. been painted with tar varnish, still exuded tar under heat from a hot-air gun - even though the surface no longer exhibited evidence of the coating.
 
I-SPY books used to feature a fascinating device strapped to (installed) telegraph poles to inject creosote. It had a huge pump handle. for the operator to pull. I never did get to spy one. Did the operator have to inject the pole every few inches :mad:
 
I-SPY books used to feature a fascinating device strapped to (installed) telegraph poles to inject creosote. It had a huge pump handle. for the operator to pull. I never did get to spy one. Did the operator have to inject the pole every few inches :mad:

Dunno about that but back in the 1980s I used to analyse samples of Creosote that was being used to treat poles for the then London Electricity Board.

Next to where I was working there was a timber importing yard where at one time ships bringing timber in used to dock. On the site they had a pressure treatment plant for treating poles.

The LEB were apparently concerned about complaints ( from farmers mostly, I think) about "bleeding poles" An LEB engineer therefore was getting us to test samples of creosote to see if he could spot any cause of the problem.

The up-side of this was that he always provided a full 1 gallon sample for a few tests that only needed a few hundred ml.
 
Creosote and Mole Valley go together like a horse and carriage.


FWIW, I also mix creosote and used engine oil. In addition to oil's undoubted waterproofing (and, hence, preserving) properties, the wood thus treated remains dark for ages, in contrast with creosote-only, which fades in sunlight. And used engine oil is free, which means the cost of treating with creosote is cheaper.
 
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