Creaking mooring rope etiquette

[jonjo]

Ok imagine this. After a long day sail you arrive in a marina, settle down in the cockpit to admire the west country harbour view and you comment to your crew, "if they could lift this into the Solent they could charge the earth".

Then slowly the resident neighbour’s MOBO aft breast line invades the tranquil evening as the mooring rope creaks on every imperceptible roll the GRP gin palace. Detailed inspection of the neighbour’s mooring technique shows that even in a beaufort force zero every mooring rope is bar taught.

Do you:

1) Sit in the cockpit and suffer hours of Chinese torture and wonder what objection the MOBO community has to using rubber snubbers.

2) Slacken off his lines just enough so that you can introduce your own mooring line fitted with a spare rubber snubber to eliminate the rope creak.

 

[oldgit]

Surely after dark you v.silently ease off the lines a tad.

 

[Tisme]

Ease his lines.
Don't use your snubber. It will probably be gone when he leaves! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[Marsupial]

a squirt of washing up liquid often helps

 

[LeytonC]

Ok imagine this. After a long day sail you arrive in a marina, settle down in the cockpit to admire the west country harbour view and you comment to your crew, "if they could lift this into the Solent they could charge the earth".

Then slowly the resident neighbour’s yacht halyards start to clank on the mast, as the wind increases to about a 3, the noise is now so loud its like being in a rock concert, but without a pleasent note to be heard.

Do you:

1) Sit in the cockpit and suffer hours of Chinese torture and wonder what objection the yacht community has to frapping their halyards?

2) Go on board with a couple of bits of rope and frap their halyards, so when they come again, they think - wow maybe we should do that ourselves

3) Go with side cutters, so when they come again, they think - wow maybe we should frap our halyards so they are not a problem?

ok, i am being a bit fippant, and it goes to show there are thoughtless people on both sides of the fence... but to answer you question, i would do option 2 on both posts.

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[jonjo]

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a squirt of washing up liquid

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Good idea and less likely to seed a later confrontation with the owner. I do carry a can of silicon spray aboard.

I am genuinely puzzled why so many Mobo owners do not fit anti sub devices as the typical Mobo hull shape often results in a very large hull windage transmitting forces through about 15" of aft breast rope.

 

[Marsupial]

Ah! silicon spray not such a good plan, the problem is that its a bit permanent, the spray will coat the decking its very hard to remove - mobo owner might not like that, washing up liquid will wash off and not leave any marks. The dodge works on squeaky fenders as well.

 

[jprstoney]

A good dollop of Dubbin works well....as does cutting all lines, going to the pub and denying any knowledge of the matter (joking..joking but the Dubbin does work).

 

[tritonofnor]

Had quite a few mobos the winter before last at work moored up with longish fore and aft lines and springs, but then a dead vertical line to the pontoon cleat from the middle cleat on the boat. Notice on the board that they weren't a good idea had little effect. Had at least three surprised owners come into the office asking for grp repair men too.... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif They will all learn eventually...
As for flaying halyards, one of the freebies we give away are branded sail ties. Used to go out on windy days with a handful and use them to tie back the offending bits of string. Never had one complaint... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[longjohnsadler]

That's a fair point, and one I've pondered often. Presumably these people never spend a night on their own boat, or they are heavy sleepers. Anyway, It's not rocket science.....
I think option 2 is more than acceptable

 

[Sixpence]

As a mobo owner , that still has things to learn , III'm trying to figure out why there is so much animsity towards us . If I've moored in a way that causes a problem to someone else , I wouldn't object to any alterations as long as they were done with respect for me and my boat's .
I just completely fail to understand why people continue this sailing \ motoring war

 

[jonjo]

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Presumably these people never spend a night on their own boat, or they are heavy sleepers.

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In fairness to the Mobo community after analysing the Brixham marina week-end scene they do inhabit their boats more than the yachts and know how to have fun.

The creaking mooring rope got me interested in mobo mooring techniques, after a stroll around the marina it seems they prefer a tight no movement setup.

 

[Sixpence]

Not on the East coast we don't , those that do go airborne

 

[PowerSlapper]

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a squirt of washing up liquid often helps

[/ QUOTE ]Baby oil works wonders as well /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jules

 

[GMac]

Just chuck a bucket of water on them, it'll work short term.

If you had some baby oil, a few square metres of plastic sheet and a wife/girlfriend who.......... Opps, sorry drifting off thread there

 

[bigwow]

The MOBO behind me in the marina has to tie up bar tight so his sky sat dish stays in the right direction!

 

[tcm]

Either loosen his lines tho than be awkward, so i wd fist try chuck soapywatr over them or spray a bit of chainlube grease onnem.

 

[SoulFireMage]

What would be useful is if the seasoned sailer that the mobo owner's just annoyed a little with creaking ropes, actually demonstrated his/her creak free mooring techniques. Either by little drawings and a note or by simple show and tell. That to me has the best long term benefit. Speaking as a mobo owner who doesn't know what a rubber snubber is!!! Of course option 2 does require that both sides are reasonably good at the old fashioned lets start a conversation skill . That wouldn't be a problem in here though I'm sure LOL.

 

[tcm]

Mooring ropes have to be stretchy for starters. This means not the nitwit braided line suplied by fairline,which is designed not to stratch and is the same design as rope for holding up sails, with little or no elasticity.

Everything else is secondary to have three-strand or (better) octoplait, whioch is farmoeelastci.

Cleaning the lines a bit soap and water, and using long "runs"of line also important - avoid short little lines from boatto shoe that have no give cos not muchrope length, except as temporary.

 

[bumblefish]

Don't the ropes become too slippy with baby oil, allowing premature extrication?