Seastoke
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so just in our budjet cranchi atlantic 40 v jeanaeu 42 both fly any comments welcome
cranchi v jeanaeu are they any good
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Portofino
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Engines form part of the decision process?
ATBE the Cranchi will stand the test of time better - seem to do in the SoF
ATBE the Cranchi will stand the test of time better - seem to do in the SoF
Seastoke
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sorry porto ATBE
Seastoke
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so volo v cumins
Portofino
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All Things Being Equal
Seastoke
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which maybe best for ie irish sea is the cranchi called atlantic for a reason or is just a med boat with a name
PowerYachtBlog
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Cranchi is a better build boat boat to a Jeanneau, components, quality of fiberglass, joinery etc etc.
Though the 40 Atlantique is not a super boat it does what it is asked well. Meaning it is not a wow seaboat but just okay. It will take you home in rough seas but is no special ride.
Jeanneau on the hand have good design for both looks and hull (it is a newer model as well). Some of the Jeanneau are also designed by Micheal Peters can't remember who did the 42.
To be fair the Cranchi Atlantique was released as the 38 model in 1997 became the 40 in 1999 with the addition of the bolt extended bathing platform and then produced for about ten years with 600 units plus sold.
Back in the day Cranchi did some important R and D for hull on the 38 (40) Atlantique for a good balance of shaft lines, tunnel drives, and minimum shaft angle to loose as minimum performance as possible. The boat was also the tester for the Volvo Tamd 63P 370hp which are very good reliable long lasting engine. It is said to be one of the best to come from Sweden.
We have a dozens of this locally and I still think the heavier engined 63s run better to the units equipped with the D6 370hp. That as the impression they give me when I see them running at least.
Though the 40 Atlantique is not a super boat it does what it is asked well. Meaning it is not a wow seaboat but just okay. It will take you home in rough seas but is no special ride.
Jeanneau on the hand have good design for both looks and hull (it is a newer model as well). Some of the Jeanneau are also designed by Micheal Peters can't remember who did the 42.
To be fair the Cranchi Atlantique was released as the 38 model in 1997 became the 40 in 1999 with the addition of the bolt extended bathing platform and then produced for about ten years with 600 units plus sold.
Back in the day Cranchi did some important R and D for hull on the 38 (40) Atlantique for a good balance of shaft lines, tunnel drives, and minimum shaft angle to loose as minimum performance as possible. The boat was also the tester for the Volvo Tamd 63P 370hp which are very good reliable long lasting engine. It is said to be one of the best to come from Sweden.
We have a dozens of this locally and I still think the heavier engined 63s run better to the units equipped with the D6 370hp. That as the impression they give me when I see them running at least.
alt
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I'm on my 2nd Cranchi (Zaffiro 34 / Smeraldo 37).
Call me bias, but I like them.
I've not had any issues with build quality. I have my Smeraldo inspected every 2 years by the Marine Survey Office (She's coded) and every time, the surveyors comment positively on the build quality.
I have said to myself that I ever sell the Smeraldo (sports cruiser), then my next boat will be a Cranchi Atlantique 40, so i'll watch this thread with interest.
The one defect I have found is that the teak on the platform is ply-teak (that's not the correct term) - basically it's plywood underneath with a thin layer of teak on top. However, I think many boats follow suit with this, so not unique to Cranchi.
Actually, one other negative is the factory-fit canopy. Thankfully, it had been replaced on my one (and i'm on a brand new one now), but the white one that comes from factory is pants for UK / IRL use, it was really made just as a cover for Med use... at least this is an easy fix, you just throw money at it.
Call me bias, but I like them.
I've not had any issues with build quality. I have my Smeraldo inspected every 2 years by the Marine Survey Office (She's coded) and every time, the surveyors comment positively on the build quality.
I have said to myself that I ever sell the Smeraldo (sports cruiser), then my next boat will be a Cranchi Atlantique 40, so i'll watch this thread with interest.
The one defect I have found is that the teak on the platform is ply-teak (that's not the correct term) - basically it's plywood underneath with a thin layer of teak on top. However, I think many boats follow suit with this, so not unique to Cranchi.
Actually, one other negative is the factory-fit canopy. Thankfully, it had been replaced on my one (and i'm on a brand new one now), but the white one that comes from factory is pants for UK / IRL use, it was really made just as a cover for Med use... at least this is an easy fix, you just throw money at it.
jrudge
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I don't know Jeanaeu but I did have a Cranchi.
It was very well built in my view. If you took of a ceiling panel you found a moulding. On a Fairline you find a hand crafted piece of wood. I understand the "hand built" bit but it still seems pretty pointless to me when a moulding will be more accurate, take less time to build and probably be more sturdy. It is of course down to volume and Cranchi churn out boats.
The after sales service from the factory works but is pretty abysmal. I just needed a colour code on a piece of Corian and it became a war of attrition! I gather this is normal for the Italian boat builders. Not sure the others are much better to give it some balance!
Things like the panel were well designed and well finished.
Do bear in mind that they are Med style boats in the main and sell well in the Med, but are harder to shift over here where they are less well known and the boat style may not match rain snow and wind!
It was very well built in my view. If you took of a ceiling panel you found a moulding. On a Fairline you find a hand crafted piece of wood. I understand the "hand built" bit but it still seems pretty pointless to me when a moulding will be more accurate, take less time to build and probably be more sturdy. It is of course down to volume and Cranchi churn out boats.
The after sales service from the factory works but is pretty abysmal. I just needed a colour code on a piece of Corian and it became a war of attrition! I gather this is normal for the Italian boat builders. Not sure the others are much better to give it some balance!
Things like the panel were well designed and well finished.
Do bear in mind that they are Med style boats in the main and sell well in the Med, but are harder to shift over here where they are less well known and the boat style may not match rain snow and wind!
ari
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I wouldn't rely on the model name to give any indications as to seaworthiness any more than 'Portofino' in a Sunseeker model name gives any indication of the boat's location.
Like most other manufacturers, names are just chosen to sound good.
PowerYachtBlog
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If the boat has a good hull and balance it works well everywhere, with oceans usually with a tad longer waves being less problematic.
In reality the most difficult seas to handle are short with steps wave, something u get in the Ionian, or the Adriatic with the Bora as an example.
You may get it similar in the UK when you have a tide versus wind situation?
BruceK
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Yes. Especially the Irish Sea where average conditions are ~1m wave height with a 5 second period closing to 3-4 second period on 0.75m height. Beam on and it can get uncomfortable very quickly but not dangerous per se
Seastoke
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so what are you saying about the d6 is it not good ,I was led to believe the d6 was a good engine very smooth ,and what speed would you say a cranchi with d6 could achive
BruceK
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you're really pulling out the stops to catch me now 
Both look really nice boats Roy. I'll be too intimidated to cruise with you now in my old scruff
Summer. Wine
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Thanks for the clarification. I had decided it meant "At The Bitter End". JGTS.
Boatbore
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I had several Cranchis from a 28ft Corallo up to a Med 50 open. All were well made and well designed. It is true that Cranchi are at the budget end of Boat building, but their factory is super modern and mechanised and as someone reported earlier they keep their pricing low and keep volumes high. I haven’t been on board a Cranchi recently, and don’t know if all of the above is still true, but if you’re looking at a pre 2007 model then, to the original post, I would steer you to Cranchi over Jeanneau.
Switch
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I've owned a Jeanneau Prestige since November so early days but it seems pretty well put together although not in Sunseeker, fairline, Princess league, although to be fair it was considerably cheaper than equivalent boats from those manufacturers so you pays your money and takes your choice. I've no experience with Cranchi's but they seem like nice boats, However, there is a nice Cranchi Zaffiro 34 that has been for sale for well over a year in our marina. It seems in good condition and competitively priced but it hasn't sold. Perhaps, as some one mentioned earlier, it is a sign of the weakness of the brand in this country. You see far more Jeanneau's around than Cranchi's in the UK IMHO.
alt
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Admittedly, the brand is less well known in IRL / UK. However, the same Zaffiro 34 (my old one) went through 2 owners quickly at my home base (health reasons, nothing wrong with the boat). It eventually was bought as stock in another part of the country and sold within about 4 months.
ari
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Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well.
The point I was trying to make was not about whether or not 'Atlantique' made it more or less suitable for differing waters, but more about whether it bore any relevance to the way the boat handles in the first place.
Expecting the boat to perform better in the Atlantic because it has Atlantique written on the side is a little like expecting a particular Porsche model to drive better in Panama because it has Panarama written on the back, or a Honda to play eclectic offbeat music through its speakers better because it's called the Honda Jazz.
They're just model names that sounded good to the marketing team.
Switch
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Agree with you, the CZ 34 is a good boat, I looked at a few about 10 years ago when I was looking for my first boat. In the end I went for something a bit larger albeit not a Cranchi.