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[Wansworth]

Why are yachts required to be fitted out to such high standards in their interiors.The standard of finish on Hillyards or many other middle of the road yachts of the 1930/1950 isandwas quiteadequate with their toungeand groove paneling with mahogany bits.Do we need such perfectjoinery as presented to day.

 

[KevinV]

If you can't afford fancy joinery just buy second hand fancy joinery. Not an option in ye olde days

 

[AntarcticPilot]

I don't know, but I suspect that modern interiors made using precise laser or CNC cut parts are considerably cheaper to produce than the interiors of traditionally built craft such as Hilliards.

 

[RunAgroundHard]

Wants change over time and the markets deliver what people want and at a price they are prepared to pay.

 

[Skylark]

Wow @Wansworth you're walking a tight rope. With a comment like that, you'll be giving apoplexy to owners of old, finely crafted (sic) boats

 

[Wansworth]

My comments did not include the super yachts of the past I was musing on my mashford four toner that was very basic but serviceable.on taking the interior out toget at the hull I ended up with a pile of T and G and bits of mahogany trim ……

 

[Buck Turgidson]

Yachts cost what people will pay.

 

[Tranona]

My comments did not include the super yachts of the past I was musing on my mashford four toner that was very basic but serviceable.on taking the interior out toget at the hull I ended up with a pile of T and G and bits of mahogany trim ……

houses from the 1950s (and earlier) were like that - look at them now. Boats have gone exactly the same way. It reflects Our vast increase in wealth and the expectations it generates.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

My comments did not include the super yachts of the past I was musing on my mashford four toner that was very basic but serviceable.on taking the interior out toget at the hull I ended up with a pile of T and G and bits of mahogany trim ……

The point is that cutting and shaping that pile of T&G and trim would take more skill and time than assembling the CNC cut components of a modern interior.

 

[Wansworth]

The point is that cutting and shaping that pile of T&G and trim would take more skill and time than assembling the CNC cut components of a modern interior.

Your probably right…..I guess I was musing on the yachts of the1970 were the factory sold a basic boat ready for the owner to complete as the man hours fitting out was were the costs mountedup

 

[John_Silver]

Always think that the RM's have an appealing modern take on the traditional white-painted- T&G-with-teak-trim theme.
Please excuse the post cruise clean up, in progress aboard this RM1070+. Arrived overnight in La Rochelle, from Madeira, when I was invited aboard:

 

[AntarcticPilot]

Your probably right…..I guess I was musing on the yachts of the1970 were the factory sold a basic boat ready for the owner to complete as the man hours fitting out was were the costs mountedup

Well, the conventional wisdom was that the hull and topsides cost a third of the total, the interior another third and rigging and equipment the final third.

 

[Supertramp]

When you break down the purchase cost of a product it is usual to see the cost of production (materials and labour to assemble) becomes a surprisingly small proportion of the total cost. Tax, profit, overheads and design and selling costs will all take a significant share. To reduce the cost in one area (such as trim) may have a smaller impact than you might hope. Although I don't doubt that new hardwood interiors will cost a lot more than ply or plastic! I don't know what the numbers would look like for a yacht manufacturer.

It's been discussed here many times but private buyers of new boats are paying a lot of money and are unlikely to favour a cost stripped product. I think some manufacturers make models which can be very basic but can be added to or equipped with full gear and trim for racing or cruising. Winner in the Netherlands is one.

Or take the cheaper route, buy used and get the wood thrown in for "free"!

 

[steveeasy]

Always think that the RM's have an appealing modern take on the traditional white-painted- T&G-with-teak-trim theme.
Please excuse the post cruise clean up in progress aboard this RM1070+. Arrived overnight in La Rochelle, from Madeira, when I was invited aboard:

Dam. I thought I was going modern with white painted T&G and contrasting teak. I’ll have to start all over again now.
Steveeasy

Please excuse the chaos on board. Busy few days!!!!

 

[Tranona]

Cornish Crabbers plus Mystery started that 20 years ago and before that I revamped the interior of my Eventide in similar vein but with varnished T&G. Ever the creature of habit doing my GH in similar style using beautiful cedar T&G which had already spent over 30 years as the ceiling in my kitchen. oh and my 2015 Bavaria had fake white T&G lining all the exposed hull sides in the cabins. Very effective.

Forecabin of GH, forecabin of Bavaria, portside saloon of Eventide

 

[westernman]

Always think that the RM's have an appealing modern take on the traditional white-painted- T&G-with-teak-trim theme.
Please excuse the post cruise clean up, in progress aboard this RM1070+. Arrived overnight in La Rochelle, from Madeira, when I was invited aboard:

That looks like part of the kitchen display at my local Ikea.

 

[rogerthebodger]

Look at out and out racing yachts that have only the essential interior fittings like open heads, canvas bunks with a washing up bowl to wising and just paper plates and cups to eat from

All to keep weight as low as possible to have max weight in the low keel

 

[AntarcticPilot]

Cornish Crabbers plus Mystery started that 20 years ago and before that I revamped the interior of my Eventide in similar vein but with varnished T&G. Ever the creature of habit doing my GH in similar style using beautiful cedar T&G which had already spent over 30 years as the ceiling in my kitchen. oh and my 2015 Bavaria had fake white T&G lining all the exposed hull sides in the cabins. Very effective.

Forecabin of GH, forecabin of Bavaria, portside saloon of Eventide

Your photos remind me of my family's first big boat - a converted lifeboat, but lined with planking. Don't know if it was T&G, but I recall very neat work, with the upper edge of each plank neatly shaped with an ogee moulding.

 

[Wansworth]

Back in 1968 the last family holiday part was spent in Teignmouth.Onthe extensive mud opposite the town where dryingmoorings .The Eventide took pride of place outnumbering and other class of boat .My father bought the plans but we never got round to building it but having watched one put to sea from Littlehampton in strong breeze it struck e as being a good little seaboat

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Back in 1968 the last family holiday part was spent in Teignmouth.Onthe extensive mud opposite the town where dryingmoorings .The Eventide took pride of place outnumbering and other class of boat .My father bought the plans but we never got round to building it but having watched one put to sea from Littlehampton in strong breeze it struck e as being a good little seaboat

Did you get a free hair shirt with the plans.