Cote d'Azure Aug/Sep from 'down under'

we've enjoyed boating on her in the Marlborough Sounds at the northern tip of New Zealand's South Island; a place where I grew up boating and simply love.
I can see why.
In hindsight, my previous comment about being hard to imagine that any Kiwi might find Corsica "wild and remote" couldn't have been more appropriate, because Corsica is actually more akin to the Champs-Élysées, when compared to some parts of the Marlborough Sounds!
Unfortunately, when I've been there, the only opportunity I had to see the area from the water was with the Picton-Wellington ferry, but we drove around it a bit, and I can confirm that it's a breathtaking cruising ground indeed, even if I just scratched the surface! :encouragement:
NZ definitely remains very high in our ranking list of next destinations for our winter home exchange trips.

Just one thought about your plan, James: in your boots, time permitting and depending on whether you are already familiar with the Med or not (I'm now assuming not much), I would consider leaving the boat here for much longer - possibly shipping her back home only at the end of 2019 summer, even if that means losing one of your summer seasons at home.
In fact, with just a couple of months in the CdA, and some of that possibly spent to iron out some onboard stuff, you are only going to see a very tiny fraction of what the Med has to offer - and imho nowhere near the best part of it, strictly from a boating viewpoint.
As I said, just a thought. If you should consider the idea, you would surely find plenty of suggestions here about the nicest Med spots which are worth seeing.

Regardless, all the very best anyway for many happy years of cruising with Laser! :encouragement:
Btw, afaik the name has the same meaning in French as in EN, but I don't know FR well enough to rule out completely that they can use it also for "relax", as you were told...
 
Good going James. That will be a fantastic boat in Marlborough region- I know the area a bit having visited a few times and boated in a tinny with big outboards.

@Porto, you are not correct in saying there is no VAT /gst in Monaco. They charge French rate of vat = 20%.
 
Good going James. That will be a fantastic boat in Marlborough region- I know the area a bit having visited a few times and boated in a tinny with big outboards.

@Porto, you are not correct in saying there is no VAT /gst in Monaco. They charge French rate of vat = 20%.

Then I must be exempt VAT it's not on my recent Port Hercule berth invoice , just left the boat today but was looking at the invoice this AM and others which had usual VAT formatted correctly.
Anyhow it seemed cheap .

Coincidentally had lunch in Varazze today ,it’s a nice marina

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Then I must be exempt VAT it's not on my recent Port Hercule berth invoice , just left the boat today but was looking at the invoice this AM and others which had usual VAT formatted correctly.
Anyhow it seemed cheap .

Coincidentally had lunch in Varazze today ,it’s a nice marina

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If you click on the bottom option on imgur 'linked BB code' you'll get a big picture like this.

 
Coincidentally had lunch in Varazze today ,it’s a nice marina
Well it has to be, at the prices they charge. The fact that it's owned by the biggest private entrepreneur in the whole boating industry probably has also something to see with the fact that it's indeed nice, I reckon... :rolleyes:
 
Hi James, from the not so 'wild and remote' Hobsonville Marina, NZ.
Your plans sound very exciting and something we (very briefly!) thought possible if we had bought a Nimbus 380 Commander we considered buying in Agde.
We ended up buying 'Nordic Blue' two years ago in Northern Ireland and shipping her back by road/ship/road.
A great time was had at the UK Nimbus Owners Club AGM/Rally at Lymington a couple of months ago. We'll go again in 2019.
Before looking to Europe we visited Marlborough to assess some boats and were shown an older Princess.
Coincidently there is a Princess 415 on the hardstand here called 'Lady Libby'. I am told that she is also from your 'neck 'o the woods'.
Maybe you'll visit our cruising grounds (Tauranga to Whangaroa) one day?
All the best for your much envied voyage in the Med.
Cheers,
Grae.
 
I didn't realize that we had so many Kiwi contributors. It's nice not to be alone in trying to keep the asylum a "World forum", as YBW claims it is...! :D

Btw, your following statement made me smile, because it puts in perspective the different approach to distances that most of you folks down under are used to:
Maybe you'll visit our cruising grounds (Tauranga to Whangaroa) one day?
In fact, that sounds like someone based in SoF saying that his cruising grounds include the Balearics, Corsica and Sardinia... :cool:
 
I didn't realize that we had so many Kiwi contributors. It's nice not to be alone in trying to keep the asylum a "World forum", as YBW claims it is...! :D

Btw, your following statement made me smile, because it puts in perspective the different approach to distances that most of you folks down under are used to:

In fact, that sounds like someone based in SoF saying that his cruising grounds include the Balearics, Corsica and Sardinia... :cool:

Probably more, remote to EU area folks than you would think, just observing and learning as much as possible before committing to buy/charter/cruise, or learning more about their own EU (area) built boats.
Adding Google links and plotter screen snapshots always help in these cases with cruise reports.
 
Hi Grae,

I know there is an older Princess near us in the Picton marina; maybe the same boat you saw.?.

After Laser arrives in Auckland at the end of November I will have to make the trip to Picton via Tauranga, Gisborne, Napier and Wellington. I'll be taking an experienced crew but any tips will be welcome. It will be the final leg of the adventure but could indeed be the 'wildest'.

Cheers.

James.
 
Hi James,
We have looked at that exact trip kicking off from Tauranga and it's on our 'maybe' list. My wife says its on her 'probably not' list.
As the two longest legs are around 200nm each and our max range at a comfortable cruising speed of 15 knots is exactly that, we would need to travel at our economical displacement speed of 7 knots for a significant part of the trip. Although the Nimbus is a semi-displacement vessel and travels well at hull speed, this would make those two notorious sections (East Cape and then the Wairarapa Coast) each potentially a day/night voyage.
My brother-in-law brought his classic wooden launch of a similar size to Nordic Blue (11.6m) from Whangarei to Wellington at (I guess) around 7 knots all the way. I guess you'll be travelling significantly faster but still hoping for a suitable weather window.
Our longest non-stop trip so far has been from Hobsonville to Whitianga (6 hours at around 16knots) we're planning a Whangarei/Opua/Whangaroa cruise in Spring.
All the best for your amazing cruise and the Med to Marlborough transit.
Cheers, Grae.
 
Hi James,
We have looked at that exact trip kicking off from Tauranga and it's on our 'maybe' list. My wife says its on her 'probably not' list.
As the two longest legs are around 200nm each and our max range at a comfortable cruising speed of 15 knots is exactly that, we would need to travel at our economical displacement speed of 7 knots for a significant part of the trip. Although the Nimbus is a semi-displacement vessel and travels well at hull speed, this would make those two notorious sections (East Cape and then the Wairarapa Coast) each potentially a day/night voyage.
My brother-in-law brought his classic wooden launch of a similar size to Nordic Blue (11.6m) from Whangarei to Wellington at (I guess) around 7 knots all the way. I guess you'll be travelling significantly faster but still hoping for a suitable weather window.
Our longest non-stop trip so far has been from Hobsonville to Whitianga (6 hours at around 16knots) we're planning a Whangarei/Opua/Whangaroa cruise in Spring.
All the best for your amazing cruise and the Med to Marlborough transit.
Cheers, Grae.

G'day Grae, auxiliary fuel bladder tank or 200L drums secured in cockpit could help to ease the fuel capacity concerns. Obviously drum transfer will need calm conditions, even if you tuck in behind an island for the process if the sea state is untidy.
This is of course assuming there is not coastal fuelling locations enroute.
 
'morning AndieMac,
We have considered bladder or drums but the mechanics of the process in the potential sea state would be awkward to say the least.
Unfortunately there are no refuelling possibilities, virtually no islands and no all-weather anchorages on the Wairarapa Coast. It is a truely "wild and remote" 200nm!
The first stage from Tauranga to Gisborne has a few very weather-dependent anchorages: Whakatane River, Whale Island, White Island (active volcano) and a small number of dodgy coastal possibilities for shelter or diesel. Nothing to rely on in the NZ changeable weather.
We may revisit the potential if ever we have seen enough of our large cruise-friendly 'northern territory'.
Cheers, G
 
'morning AndieMac,
We have considered bladder or drums but the mechanics of the process in the potential sea state would be awkward to say the least.
Unfortunately there are no refuelling possibilities, virtually no islands and no all-weather anchorages on the Wairarapa Coast. It is a truely "wild and remote" 200nm!
The first stage from Tauranga to Gisborne has a few very weather-dependent anchorages: Whakatane River, Whale Island, White Island (active volcano) and a small number of dodgy coastal possibilities for shelter or diesel. Nothing to rely on in the NZ changeable weather.
We may revisit the potential if ever we have seen enough of our large cruise-friendly 'northern territory'.
Cheers, G

I'm sure you can do quite controlled refuelling from a bladder tank with proper fittings regardless of weather conditions, the long distance ocean passage makers swear by them in that situation.
I think you Kiwi's must have one of the highest proportion of boat ownership per head of population anywhere in world.
I spent some time on the north island with our very own MapisM during one of his global tours :), a great experience and was really impressed by the amount of boats we saw, seemed to be at least one per person ;)
 
Hi All,

Another question...:rolleyes:

The boat wasn't sold with a dinghy (tender). I was hoping to be able to pick up something 'used' but serviceable for our time over there but after extensive Googling I can't seem to find anything useful on the subject.

Any thoughts/tips or should I just ask around once we get there?

Cheers.

James.
 
For your trip along the coast here is a link to a trip I did in May which covers a bit of the journey you are taking http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?500757-May-Cruise-to-St-Tropez&highlight=Mcanderson

And the next two links are for some of the ports where you can book online.

http://www.riviera-ports.com

https://www.portdebeaulieu.com/en/

We are in Beaulieu and can highly recommend it. Very good facilities, shops transport links etc.

As others have said San Remo is great and I’m sure you will enjoy it.

If you need any recommendations feel free to pm or post here and someone will have an answer for you.
 
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