Costs of Berths in Majorca for 2017

[mjkinch1]

During our recent trip to Majorca we had a shufty around the marinas to get some pricing and availability, just in case you wondered what the pricing ranges would be, these are for a 12m x 4m mooring. Prices are generally quoted less 21% VAT, and then there is lighthouse tax, water and electric, and every Marina seems to quote these different. I have rounded the figure up to include all taxes and running costs, and I may have missed something, but its about right.

Adriano €15,732
Santa Ponca €11,200 (up to 15m)
Cala Nova €12,720
Club De Mar €12,500
Portals €17,500
RCNP €12,500

What was interesting is that the marinas are saying they are fully allocated for 2017, and they all have waiting lists. The amount of private vs marina owned moorings in each marina varied a lot, so these are moorings that marina owns or the owner has given the marina to rent. Some marinas were 100% private, and I haven't listed those.

Given the strength of the € vs £, in real terms these will cost a lot more than they would have a year ago, so the ideal world is to find a mooring owner living in the UK that does not charge VAT and is happy to be paid in ££ - I would imagine a very rare person!

Anyway thought it worth sharing, its a time consuming exercise, but everyone was really helpfull and gave us written quotes, and took us through how the waiting list system worked.

Martyn

 

[PEJ]

Thanks for posting this.

Where is RCNP? Pollenca?

 

[petem]

During our recent trip to Majorca we had a shufty around the marinas to get some pricing and availability, just in case you wondered what the pricing ranges would be, these are for a 12m x 4m mooring. Prices are generally quoted less 21% VAT, and then there is lighthouse tax, water and electric, and every Marina seems to quote these different. I have rounded the figure up to include all taxes and running costs, and I may have missed something, but its about right.

Adriano €15,732
Santa Ponca €11,200 (up to 15m)
Cala Nova €12,720
Club De Mar €12,500
Portals €17,500
RCNP €12,500

What was interesting is that the marinas are saying they are fully allocated for 2017, and they all have waiting lists. The amount of private vs marina owned moorings in each marina varied a lot, so these are moorings that marina owns or the owner has given the marina to rent. Some marinas were 100% private, and I haven't listed those.

Given the strength of the € vs £, in real terms these will cost a lot more than they would have a year ago, so the ideal world is to find a mooring owner living in the UK that does not charge VAT and is happy to be paid in ££ - I would imagine a very rare person!

Anyway thought it worth sharing, its a time consuming exercise, but everyone was really helpfull and gave us written quotes, and took us through how the waiting list system worked.

Martyn

Thanks Martyn. The only thing I'd add is sometimes the devil is in the detail and also some bending of the rules where possible. Take a Targa 38 @ 12.13m LOA for example, in Portals it will go on a 10m mooring and will cost €8-9k, Cala D'Or is has to go on a 13m mooring and will cost €14.5k. That's a big difference and shows the value of some local knowledge.

Pete

 

[AIDY]

Thanks for posting this.

Where is RCNP? Pollenca?

Real club nautico Palma.

 

[Hurricane]

Kind of makes Sant Carles (100 miles away) a bargain.
A 12m berth can be had for around €3,000 inc electricity, water and taxes.
And only a four and a half hour cruise form the Baldricks.

 

[tetleys]

Hi Hurricane

How difficult and expensive is it to get temporary/visitor berthing through the summer months in the Baldricks ?
Having just returned from Mallorca i totally understand the appeal of boating out there , and not wanting to stir up the
ever ongoing debate of uk versus med , i can see exactly where you are coming from , but if berthed in Sant Carles with my T47 i would want to venture to more interesting destinations.
cheers
Tetleys

 

[jrudge]

Thanks Martyn. The only thing I'd add is sometimes the devil is in the detail and also some bending of the rules where possible. Take a Targa 38 @ 12.13m LOA for example, in Portals it will go on a 10m mooring and will cost €8-9k, Cala D'Or is has to go on a 13m mooring and will cost €14.5k. That's a big difference and shows the value of some local knowledge.

Pete

The mooring you get is one thing. The mooring you pay for I would imagine in nearly all cases was the loa of the boat. Happy to be proved wrong

 

[MapisM]

Interesting numbers.
By heart, I can think of at least half a dozen of equally nice places (if not better, depending also on personal preferences, of course) in very different spots within the Med which are nowhere near as expensive...!

 

[petem]

Interesting numbers.
By heart, I can think of at least half a dozen of equally nice places (if not better, depending also on personal preferences, of course) in very different spots within the Med which are nowhere near as expensive...!

Yeah but are they as accessible and do the restaurants serve anything other than Tuna?

 

[mjkinch1]

Thanks Martyn. The only thing I'd add is sometimes the devil is in the detail and also some bending of the rules where possible. Take a Targa 38 @ 12.13m LOA for example, in Portals it will go on a 10m mooring and will cost €8-9k, Cala D'Or is has to go on a 13m mooring and will cost €14.5k. That's a big difference and shows the value of some local knowledge.

Pete

Hi Pete

Yes we saw that - it did seem to vary.

Half the challenge seems to be finding the private owners who want to rent, and the local knowledge for that seems to take longer than the day or so we had there. Portals looked great, but the attraction we had with the RCNP (Palma) was the walking into Palma - but no availability.

If anyone can help with contacts for a rental mooring within reasonable striking distance of Palma it would be appreciated.

 

[mjkinch1]

The mooring you get is one thing. The mooring you pay for I would imagine in nearly all cases was the loa of the boat. Happy to be proved wrong

Couple of places like RCNP took the dimensions of the boat and used that to calculate costs rather than a straight 12x4m mooring which most other marinas quoted on

 

[mjkinch1]

Kind of makes Sant Carles (100 miles away) a bargain.
A 12m berth can be had for around €3,000 inc electricity, water and taxes.
And only a four and a half hour cruise form the Baldricks.

That is one of the options we are going to explore, the cost saving is quite high, yet you are reasonably placed to get to Majorca and Ibiza - so one for a trip later this year to have a look

 

[NGM]

That is one of the options we are going to explore, the cost saving is quite high, yet you are reasonably placed to get to Majorca and Ibiza - so one for a trip later this year to have a look

You will get v good savings on the mainland but if Ballearics are your real goal you will only realise these savings if
1) you have the luxury of time; hence can be patient for a weather window
2) be able to miss the chaos of July and August
3) be willing to spend some time at anchor

If you are likely to be visiting your boat in high season and for a maximum 2 weeks break, it's unlikely you will be prepared to rebook (prepay a marina) as you won't know if the weather will allow. If you make the crossing but haven't booked there will be the daily ritual of checking for availability making it difficult to plan ahead(in high season); of course less problematic if you are prepared to anchor (water can be a concern for >3 days). Finally likely feul spend will €1000 for crossing alone in addition to summer berthing rates (Ibiza can be brutal €200-300 for 15m, Mallorca less so).

 

[MapisM]

Yeah but are they as accessible and do the restaurants serve anything other than Tuna?

I said half a dozen P, not just one.
And coming to think of it, probably more, and spread in several different Med areas (Tyrrhenian, Ionian, Adriatic, Aegean).
Otoh, I understand that accessibility is a factor of course, but that has nothing to see with my point.

 

[DavidJ]

Kind of makes Sant Carles (100 miles away) a bargain.
A 12m berth can be had for around €3,000 inc electricity, water and taxes.
And only a four and a half hour cruise form the Baldricks.

Mike
Just gone for a quote online for my 11.3 x 3.71 boat and I get €4534 for an annual stern to berth. Still excellent value for a lovely marina but how could I get the €3000 deal?
Cheers
David

 

[Whitelighter]

G

Mike
Just gone for a quote online for my 11.3 x 3.71 boat and I get €4534 for an annual stern to berth. Still excellent value for a lovely marina but how could I get the €3000 deal?
Cheers
David

I'm paying €3500 for a pontoon 15m berth.
Stick Sant Carles marina rental berth in Google. Genus marine have a few.
Some local spaniards have a few.
The marina will deal from the list price (but it's not as good as the private deals)

 

[Hurricane]

Hi Hurricane

How difficult and expensive is it to get temporary/visitor berthing through the summer months in the Baldricks ?
Having just returned from Mallorca i totally understand the appeal of boating out there , and not wanting to stir up the
ever ongoing debate of uk versus med , i can see exactly where you are coming from , but if berthed in Sant Carles with my T47 i would want to venture to more interesting destinations.
cheers
Tetleys

Why book a berth
I went across for a week last month - didn't go anywhere near a marina.
Two days on my own - waiting for SWMBO to fly into Palma.
My fuel burn for that trip was about £2300 return - inc generator fuel.
I could do more than 10 of those each year and still have change for berthing a 20m boat on the island.
The key point here is - they are ISLANDS.
That means there is always somewhere out of the wind.

Having said that, we sometimes treat ourselves to a marina berth - Alcudia for example is about £130 per night.

I do understand the time constraints argument though.
I have time to pick the weather.
However, we did spend most of August last year on the anchor in Menorca and Mallorca.

 

[TonyR123]

Martyn

What dates are you looking at to rent?

I 'might' have a 12x4 berth to rent in portals. I say might as I will more than likely sell it at some point, especially if a good offer came along . Have my current boat on there until end of November. I can move the boat to another berth after that.

Most boats on the pontoon are bigger than 12m. From memory there is a squadron 44 on the pontoon. Beam is more important but there are also a few 'fjord' boats with a beam of 3.99m (doesn't leave much for fenders!). None of this is an issue though as our mooring is 4 from the end so can easily move boats if needed.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

What about Alcudia?

 

[mjkinch1]

What about Alcudia?

Hi Mike

Just fancied a change of location, we stayed in Palma some years ago on the boat and quite enjoyed the anchorages round that side, and it seemed a little less windy as well. We are going to put it all together over teh next couple of weeks and decide what to do.

When we stopped in Alcudia in August there was some unrest about a new management company coming in from the mainland to run Alcudia marina, and changing the rules about ownership and leasing, and the guy I was chatting to was non too happy about what it could mean. So not sure, and decided it was probably worth trying somewhere else!