Cost Per Trip

[Bouba]

Did you get a competitive offer from a different supplier?

I have tried in the past...and they are always virtually identical...the only difference is they all seem to have a slightly different schedule of work for each given year (which makes a real apples to oranges comparison)...but these people are the official French agents (although they seem happy to subcontract to local companies depending on how busy they are)...so I have to assume that their schedule of work is the closest to the American manufacturers...and even if you pick a different schedule, all you are doing is putting off the bill till next service

 

[jakew009]

I have tried in the past...and they are always virtually identical...the only difference is they all seem to have a slightly different schedule of work for each given year (which makes a real apples to oranges comparison)...but these people are the official French agents (although they seem happy to subcontract to local companies depending on how busy they are)...so I have to assume that their schedule of work is the closest to the American manufacturers...and even if you pick a different schedule, all you are doing is putting off the bill till next service

I still can’t understand what they are possibly doing that can cost 6 grand. I wonder how much of the work doesn’t actually need doing. It really would be worth getting a proper itemised quote.

To get to that sort of labour bill they must be planning on stripping down the raw water cooling side, after cooler heat exchanger etc. Does it even need doing? How many hours have you done since it was last done?

How old is the engine out of interest?

 

[Bouba]

I still can’t understand what they are possibly doing that can cost 6 grand. I wonder how much of the work doesn’t actually need doing. It really would be worth getting a proper itemised quote.

To get to that sort of labour bill they must be planning on stripping down the raw water cooling side, after cooler heat exchanger etc. Does it even need doing? How many hours have you done since it was last done?

How old is the engine out of interest?

I do have a fully itemized quote...but it’s in French

 

[Momac]

Frette (not quite sure what it is exactly) 189 plus vat

So could that be lifting the boat out? affrètement .

 

[Poignard]

I once calculated that my cost per mile was greater than if I had travelled by Concorde.

Trouble was that Concorde didn't fly to where I wanted to go.

 

[Bouba]

So could that be lifting the boat out? affrètement .
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No...a ring attached to the crankshaft.. is the google translate

 

[thejonesey]

Having been without a boat for a while, I can say that the act of owning a boat (and knowing it is there) gives me a lot of pleasure. We live over the shop so knowing that we can occasionally escape to her always makes me happy.... and then of course there are those priceless days, evenings and escapades! So my cost per day also includes the ones when I am not on board!

 

[Bouba]

Having been without a boat for a while, I can say that the act of owning a boat (and knowing it is there) gives me a lot of pleasure. We live over the shop so knowing that we can occasionally escape to her always makes me happy.... and then of course there are those priceless days, evenings and escapades! So my cost per day also includes the ones when I am not on board!

I feel the same...there is no logical reason to own a boat...you can always hire...it’s all about pride of ownership. Boys love toys... and even when we are not playing with them...we like to know that they are in our toy box

 

[Bouba]

I still can’t understand what they are possibly doing that can cost 6 grand. I wonder how much of the work doesn’t actually need doing. It really would be worth getting a proper itemised quote.

To get to that sort of labour bill they must be planning on stripping down the raw water cooling side, after cooler heat exchanger etc. Does it even need doing? How many hours have you done since it was last done?

How old is the engine out of interest?

The engine is seven years old...there’s been a delay since my last service due to covid...otherwise I have had it serviced every year regardless of hours

 

[jakew009]

The engine is seven years old...there’s been a delay since my last service due to covid...otherwise I have had it serviced every year regardless of hours

This is clearly said tongue in cheek but at your prices it would be cheaper to buy a new engine every 7 years and not bother servicing it at all.

 

[Bouba]

This is clearly said tongue in cheek but at your prices it would be cheaper to buy a new engine every 7 years and not bother servicing it at all.

It doesn’t cost this much every year (although it is NEVER cheap)...it all depends on the schedule of work...some years it’s all little jobs...other years big jobs

 

[Bouba]

This is clearly said tongue in cheek but at your prices it would be cheaper to buy a new engine every 7 years and not bother servicing it at all.

Although I would like to say...excellent use of man maths...that one might come in handy some day

 

[jakew009]

Although I would like to say...excellent use of man maths...that one might come in handy some day

35k for reman engine.. 7 years of 6k a year.. still leaves 7k to pay someone to swap it.
Old engine should still be worth something, so might even turn a profit.

 

[BruceK]

I now live on my boat and got a free lift out this year so cost per trip has for once become exceptionally economical. My Axiom shows just over 1000nm logged and I have put in around 2000 litres being quite prepared to just chug about at displacement speeds. (Not that I have gone far mind, I just stay out for long periods hopping from anchorage to anchorage. So far this year its cost about 4.50/nm but will probably go double that by the EoY, and nearly 2 years in still loving this new liveaboard lifestyle.

 

[Boat2016]

Have they give you a breakdown of what they are doing? It seems a ridiculous amount of money. A 450hp truck costs less than 10% of that to service.

Apart from the base engine the marine engine equivalent is very different to a truck engine

 

[jakew009]

Apart from the base engine the marine engine equivalent is very different to a truck engine

yep, in many ways the marine version is simpler. No emissions crap for a start…

 

[Boat2016]

yep, in many ways the marine version is simpler. No emissions crap for a start…

I would do some research if i were you.
One task that’s easier is draining the oil, you don’t get to pull the bung over a pit with your boat, also impellers that are fitted in the most awkward to get at places. Have worked in both sectors and can assure you its not simpler.

 

[jakew009]

I would do some research if i were you.
One task that’s easier is draining the oil, you don’t get to pull the bung over a pit with your boat, also impellers that are fitted in the most awkward to get at places. Have worked in both sectors and can assure you its not simpler.

Ok not going to argue. I don’t think anyone pulls sump plugs anymore, it’s just sucked out.

The point was I don’t see how a single 7 year old 450hp engine can possible cost 6 grand to service, but maybe I am in the wrong business

 

[Bouba]

Ok not going to argue. I don’t think anyone pulls sump plugs anymore, it’s just sucked out.

The point was I don’t see how a single 7 year old 450hp engine can possible cost 6 grand to service, but maybe I am in the wrong business

Single engine….plus a small generator

 

[westernman]

yep, in many ways the marine version is simpler. No emissions crap for a start…

There are emissions requirements which have to be met for all pleasure boat engines since 2013 for all boats manufactured from that date onwards.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:52022DC0358