RupertW
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I think he meant paying the entire boat's value as a marina fee each year which is now quite common
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I think he meant paying the entire boat's value as a marina fee each year which is now quite common
Flica
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Europe's most expensive marina - Marina Grande, Capri....
Until you've experienced those sort of prices - officially started @ €150/night.
Until you've experienced those sort of prices - officially started @ €150/night.
Daydream believer
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Try & keep up !!!
RupertW
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I can't believe that's even in the top 10 percent - I was paying 110 per night in Croatia 7 years ago
lpdsn
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Maybe it is per metre.
Flica
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johnalison
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solent clown
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hee hee.
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temptress
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Well it is not just Europe. Here in Singapore you can pay over $150 per night for a guest berth and also have to lodge a security deposit of a month's berthing which they give back to you 60 days later.
Across the straight in Indonesia (6 miles away) Nonsa Point want $120 per day and often more....
Mind you Sebana in Malaysia (10 miles away) area $5 per day and monthly rates are negotiable .. . shame it in the middle of nowhere.
Daydream believer
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What do you mean "shame" there are a few UK sailors who would like nothing better
Cookie Jar
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Maybe in the UK... other countries that actually do not have wrecks in marinas apply the same eye-watering prices...just because they can :ambivalence:
RupertW
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Sure because people want to sail there. The UK, particularly the south, is in the weird position of ramping up towards the peak of boat ownership in the 1980s or 90s then steep decline as the next generation rent in the sun. So losds of old small boats filling marinas with few options for the owners as many won't sell and there is no easy way of scrapping for marinas when owners don't pay bills or for the owners who keep on paying when they've lost interest.
steveeasy
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out of interest what do people think they should pay then ?. my boat is on a pontoon birth on the hamble with good access to the Solent. no posh showers but good pub and restaurant. I pay 320 per month. I might add that's inclusive of VAT. so the yard only gets £260. is it expensive, not really. can I afford it, not really. what should you pay for good facilities and what do you really want.
Steveeasy
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solent clown
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what length is your boat for reference/comparison?
Ours works out at £14 per metre per month incl. VAT
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steveeasy
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9 meters. something like £8 per meter per week. Id rather pay £14 per meter per month but youd not find storage for that normally. the fact is businesses have to make money, it takes a fair number of boats just to cover the fixed costs such as business rates.
Steveeasy
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solent clown
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and its a mud berth we have, not exactly a premium, but it suits us
ashtead
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You might find an annual berth on the Medina opposite the Folly is cheaper than that even now - I don't know how much they currently pay but it always used to be a very modest charge for all states access with a pontoon but no walkashore or power etc . No doubt another forumite can advise as to current Medina rates for 2018
solent clown
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Speaking to our marina owners today about this, it isnt just so simple as the length, at least here. Some of the berths are cheaper than others as there is a greater tidal window in some places. They also price smaller boats lower than most other places we have looked at, which makes it much more viable to have a little 18footer in the water, and something bigger alongside. They do that simply because they are enthusiasts, and smaller boats tend to be used more often. Middle sized boats get the worst of the deal per metre, then bigger yachts get a cheaper per metre rate.
It makes sense I guess as volume creates cashflow even with less profit, and in the case of the larger boats here, it is reliable.
I asked them about the green mouldy boats stacked on the hard in various places, and if it bugged them. The answer was refreshingly honest, as long as they are paying it is fine.
We sail a lot, I go down to the marina every day, and I see how much sheer bloody effort is required to run the place, it is only small, but they have their hands full. Many a time I have seen them jet washing the pontoons in pouring rain. That dream of a small independent marina looks to be a hard fought one indeed.
It makes sense I guess as volume creates cashflow even with less profit, and in the case of the larger boats here, it is reliable.
I asked them about the green mouldy boats stacked on the hard in various places, and if it bugged them. The answer was refreshingly honest, as long as they are paying it is fine.
We sail a lot, I go down to the marina every day, and I see how much sheer bloody effort is required to run the place, it is only small, but they have their hands full. Many a time I have seen them jet washing the pontoons in pouring rain. That dream of a small independent marina looks to be a hard fought one indeed.