Cost of coppercoat for 38ft boat?

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After a wild time in Dartmouth on Friday, I'm hoping to bring the new girl back to the Hamble some time next week.

So far, drip-less Tides seals is top of the list, followed by coppercoat or equivalent to protect the condition of her bottom.

Can anyone recommend someone in the Solent region that can coppercoat the boat at an affordable rate?

(Elessar *nudge* - you PM box is full)
 
We supply Coppercoat to many boat painting companies along the Hampshire coast, so if you want to do some price comparison shopping for a Coppercoat application service, you could try Hamble Yachts Services on 02380 45411 or Deacons on 02380 402253 or Desty Marine on 02380 457776 or Hayling Yacht Company on 02392 463592 amongst others. And of course, ARC (Elessar) on 0800 848 8848.

As a guide, in terms of product cost, a 38ft motorboat is likely to need approximately 10 litres of Coppercoat, at £700 plus Vat. Though you might need a litre or so more or less than this, depending on the exact boat dimensions.
 
EwanClark said:
We supply Coppercoat to many boat painting companies along the Hampshire coast, so if you want to do some price comparison shopping for a Coppercoat application service, you could try Hamble Yachts Services on 02380 45411 or Deacons on 02380 402253 or Desty Marine on 02380 457776 or Hayling Yacht Company on 02392 463592 amongst others. And of course, ARC (Elessar) on 0800 848 8848.

As a guide, in terms of product cost, a 38ft motorboat is likely to need approximately 10 litres of Coppercoat, at £700 plus Vat. Though you might need a litre or so more or less than this, depending on the exact boat dimensions.
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I have been thinking about having my princess done. What is the best method for application, spray on or good old hand application , I'd be interested in your view as labour rates vary in both methods of application.
 
Hamble Yacht Services did our 10m sailing boat a few years ago, very pleased with the work and the coppercoat works a treat, we have one lift and scrub a year with only a thin layer of slime to remove, my only regret is that we didnt have it done years ago! HYS did quite a lot of other work at the same time so i cant remember how much the Coppercoat part was but I think it worked out about £100/meter.
 
I went through many of the company options Ewan mentioned when pricing up to get my boat coppercoated last year. Elessar / arcantifoul had the most competitive offering because they had an arrangement to lift out at drivers wharf on the Itchen. They also work at many of the Hamble marinas and so it's the price of the lift that makes some of the difference in total cost.
Sadly the crane at Drivers couldn't manage my boat (15 tonne max I think) so I'm off to the channel islands in May - lift out there much cheaper for some reason. And a good excuse for a short cruise.
At all times arcantifoul were great to deal with and helpful in exploring options. I just couldn't face the south coast lift costs.
Best of luck with it.
Dave
 
Robg71 said:
Can anyone backup the claim of "gaining two knots" as per the advert...
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Rob I'd say its a result of removing years of old antifoul build up and application of new smooth copper coat which looks more like gel shield epoxy , very smooth! Also the type of hull ie gregg s s.

For what it's worth I scraped one of my fairline corniches a few years ago right back , gelshielded the hull and two coats of af, did exactly the same speed as before, I just felt better about doing it as it was so scabby underneath.
 
lanerboy said:
when having copper coat applied do you have to have all the anti foul removed and get back to good clean grp, if so how do you go about getting it back to a good clean surface for the coppercoat to be applied to
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Shawn, yes you have to remove all the old a/f before copper coating. Not sure if you have to use an additional prep before coating, but Arcantifoul will confirm.
 
Just need 4 days of continuous >6ºC to cure.

I am still waiting for this to happen so that Elessar can do my new Nimbus. I was hoping for her to be in the water by now, but there has been no weather window since end of Feb!

Global warming??
 
There usually is a noticeable speed increase from removing years of built up old paint and applying a smooth new surface, even when the new surface is one of conventional anti-foul paint.

The additional advantage with Coppercoat is that it is a waterproof epoxy, so it does not absorb moisture when you launch. Standard anti-foul paint, on the other hand, acts a bit like blotting paper - it absorbs water, swells, roughens and increases in weight when you launch - all which add drag, slow the boat, and increase fuel consumption.

The actual performance advantage will vary from boat to boat as expected, but certainly many people (predominantly motorboat owners) including the likes of Greg Copp of MBY and Steve Blanchard of www.pooleseasafari.com have reported impressive improvements. That said, we wouldn't suggest that the owner of a Westerly Centaur is likely to see a 2 knot increase!!!
 
rafiki_ said:
Shawn, yes you have to remove all the old a/f before copper coating. Not sure if you have to use an additional prep before coating, but Arcantifoul will confirm.
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The only addition to removal of the old antifoul will be to roughen the surface so the new CopperCoat adheres correctly.

Mine was done back in April but had never been antifouled before as it was always trailered. Bottom roughed with some 120 grit, washed off and then 4 coats of CopperCoat, each 1 applied before the previous coat had dried. 3 days to cure and then another 120 grit abraid and into the water it went.
 
Denis O said:
The only addition to removal of the old antifoul will be to roughen the surface so the new CopperCoat adheres correctly.

Mine was done back in April but had never been antifouled before as it was always trailered. Bottom roughed with some 120 grit, washed off and then 4 coats of CopperCoat, each 1 applied before the previous coat had dried. 3 days to cure and then another 120 grit abraid and into the water it went.
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Denis, this would only work if the old a/f has a pretty smooth finish. In my experience, it would be very difficult to get a smooth enough finish for coppercoat benefits to be realised.
 
rafiki_ said:
Denis, this would only work if the old a/f has a pretty smooth finish. In my experience, it would be very difficult to get a smooth enough finish for coppercoat benefits to be realised.
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His boat had never been antifouled so he was 100% correct.

You cannot put coppercoat over antifoul or any one part paint. Epoxy is OK to stay on under the coppercoat though.
 
rafiki_ said:
Denis, this would only work if the old a/f has a pretty smooth finish. In my experience, it would be very difficult to get a smooth enough finish for coppercoat benefits to be realised.
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No argument with that rafiki. I guess I was assuming that removal of old anti foul should leave a smooth finish to work with.
 
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