Cost of Changing Boat - Depreciation - Cost to Change etc - Buy to last????????

roblpm said:
This was my feeling entirely. Then I started looking at these kind of boats and all the examples I have looked at have been manky! So spending what is still quite a substantial amount of money on something I am not enthused about is putting me off! I think people on here have described wanting a feeling of pride/joy when arriving or leaving their boat! After all it is much cheaper to go on other peoples boats or charter. So then I started thinking more long term!! Luckily I dont have the money until later in the year so I can spend months procrastinating!!
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Don't rule out the older boats just because the ones you've seen so far have been manky!

There's a huge difference between an older boat that's been neglected and one that's been well maintained and regularly updated. Maybe you've just seen the former so far?
 
Or look at Hunter Legends - modern bilge/twin keelers (our 33 is 18 months old). They are very roomy below - great for the wife and kids, sail relatively well (it is more a cruiser than racer), it has the arch to keep the mast away from heads (nice and safe).

Oh but it doesnt have a back-stay - so the mast will fall down (just like all the racing dinghies I sailed 30 years ago).

There is a lot of prejudice against Hunter Legend here but go try one and see for yourself.
 
I'd have a look at a Sadler 29 bilge.

I know of an immaculate Moody 31 for sale, it is a finkeeler, though. Mate of mine bought it almost exactly a year ago sorted it all out and then died very unexpectedly.
 
Daydream believer said:
Add a Hanse 311 to your list @ £50k
Best single hander for its size so good for the kids.
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Putting aside Twister Ken's pertinent comment.

I am a student of these matters, what specific qualities of the Hanse 311 make it the "Best single hander for its size"


Roblpm.

I can't help you much as I know nowt about the boats mentioned. However, I do think boats are like girls, when you see one you like, you don't need advice from anyone. Not always a good thing perhaps but there it is.

If you were to twist my arm I would say get the modern lift keeler. You may find out by degrees that the wife and kids are not interested, you may find she is not your cup of tea in rough water but you have made the effort, she will suit you needs right now and should sell ok if you buy at the right price.
 
doug748 said:
You may find out by degrees that the wife and kids are not interested, you may find she is not your cup of tea in rough water but you have made the effort, she will suit you needs right now and should sell ok if you buy at the right price.
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You suggesting he sell his wife when she no longer meets his needs!! ;)
 
doug748 said:
You may find out by degrees that the wife and kids are not interested, you may find she is not your cup of tea in rough water but you have made the effort, she will suit you needs right now and should sell ok if you buy at the right price.
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Angele said:
You suggesting he sell his wife when she no longer meets his needs!! ;)
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That depends on how much he paid for her. But if he threw the kids in, it might just prove to be a worthwhile deal. :D
 
My tip would be to look at boats built and for sale in the Baltic with wheelhouses - but bilge or lifting keels are rarer there. Look at LM30s for example.
In your planned climate, a wheelhouse mades a big difference to comfort afloat and a wheelhouse does not always mean motorsailor.
On the otherhand, gentlemen don't beat to windward, in the North Sea, especially not with wives and kids on board. ;-)
 
Twister_Ken said:
Splendid! Can you point me at one for sale?
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4 listed on Yachtworld, one in UK, one in Germany, one in Italy, one in Cyprus. NONE of them lift keel.

Can never understand why people suggest a particular boat is "best" (particularly not for the characteristic the potential purchaser asks for) when it was only ever built in tiny numbers and rarely comes up for sale. Suppose it shows how discerning the owner making the recommendation thinks he is.
 
Another, final offer from the Blueboatman two cents worth : Wot about a heavenly twins with a decent diesel? Sort of centre cockpit shelter/extra room, shallow draft, beach and mud friendly, family comfort and space..put heating in and it's a four season boat maybe too.
You didn't really want to thrash to windward across the North Sea did you?

( that house extension is getting smaller and smaller isn't it?smilee)
 
Tranona said:
4 listed on Yachtworld, one in UK, one in Germany, one in Italy, one in Cyprus. NONE of them lift keel.

Can never understand why people suggest a particular boat is "best" (particularly not for the characteristic the potential purchaser asks for) when it was only ever built in tiny numbers and rarely comes up for sale. Suppose it shows how discerning the owner making the recommendation thinks he is.
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I never said there were lots of them. The op only wants one
Don't get the hump because you were wrong otherwise you will spend your whole life being miserable
 
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