Cooker Gas Pipe

Mmmmm - Castlevar dont take offense. We are not minimising the risk. We are simply suggesting that common sense must prevail. Severity high, liklihood low!

Most boat owners are fairly confident and competant to undertake this type of work on their own boat, and it's perfectly legal/legitimate for them to do so. If unsure, then they would/should/be stupid not to, ask for advice or contact an engineer.

It's sad you lost your friend, but we dont know what the facts of that case are? Was it due to changing a cylinder, hose or regulator?

In my opinion, it's perfectly safe to change these serviceable items without any special training, assuming you test for leaks after. After all, millions of boats, caravans and gas BBQer's have been doing so for many years, yes some do make mistakes and the consequences can be severe, just like when driving a car.

Of course, we do need to be careful with Butane (C4H10) because it is (if my chemistry is correct - VicS will let us know if its not) heavier than air due to its molecular mass which is around 58 ((4x12)+(10x1)) compared with air at around 29. So gas can build-up in voids/bilges.

Hence we must make certain areas where cylinders are contained are well ventilated and ventilate all bilges or voids below!

Come on Castlevar - we need experts like you on board with us! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
we have a vent from the bottom of the gas locker out though the side of the boat, and also a gas detector sensor under the stove. This makes a hell of noise, as SWMBO found out when she was squirting ammonia based cleaner around the stove - proved it works OK !
 
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when i say leave the pressure test on for 30 min that is what i mean start the test have a cup of tea when you return you can be satisfied that it is safe.


[/ QUOTE ] So then if a 30minute test is your recommendation getting it done by a registered gas installer, following the instructions in his hand book, and doing a five minute test is pretty bad news then.
But then we all knew getting things done by registered gas installers was a pretty dumb idea!
 
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Probably would not be a bad idea to read this document

[/ QUOTE ] I have read it thank you very much.
I have also posted a link to it many times on these forums, including in my first contribution to this topic !!!

Is there any particular part of it you wish to emphasize?
 
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Is there any particular part of it you wish to emphasize?

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I humbly apologise for missing your earlier link. As they say in the gas trade - RTFM! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
The old British Standard 5482-1:2005 recommended a test procedure for service and/or installation pipework to operate at 37 mbar for propane or 28 mbar, that would last 5 mins to stabilise and 2 mins to test. Entire new system pipework would take 15 mins!

If a leak is found and the pressure has fallen, examine the entire installation and check each joint with
Leak Detection Fluid soapy water!
 
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If a leak is found and the pressure has fallen, examine the entire installation and check each joint with
Leak Detection Fluid soapy water!

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Leak Detection Fluid is not soapy water! For example we are not allowed to use washing-up liquid in this context as it contains corrosive elements which may cause damage to the pipework/fittings.
 
Fairy liquid with water is fine and fit for purpose. You simply wipe it off after. Please dont tell me you now have to buy leak detection fluid now, what are they teaching you guys nowadays?

It's been used for decades. If a leak exists in a gas system at positive pressure, no liquid should penetrate the joint, just gas escape, if its gas tight is must also be fluid tight! And you wipe it off after.

Have not seen any warning labels on copper or steel pots and pans saying that splashes or fairy liquid with water is hazardous and can damage them!

Now I do have my doubts...... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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Fairy liquid with water is fine and fit for purpose. You simply wipe it off after. Please dont tell me you now have to buy leak detection fluid now, what are they teaching you guys nowadays?

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Obviously different to what you were taught.

I must go and check on my bottle of Fairy Liquid to see if it states that it is approved for the use of leak detection on gas pipes. Somehow I think not and therefore not fit for purpose! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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