Nicholas123
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Nothing wrong with my mind it's you not reading the posts properly.
PS: OH & a desperate need to prove how clever you are.
Converting a Continental LPG regulator to Calor,can it be done?
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Nothing wrong with my mind it's you not reading the posts properly.
PS: OH & a desperate need to prove how clever you are.
Nicholas123
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Why would I realise that when my experience is here in the UK & not the Continent?
Thanks for the link to that regulator but it does not have a gauge which I consider essential to keep an eye on the soundness of the system nor does it have the threaded connection that would enable me to connect it direct to the existing infrastructure.
I have got my regulator bodged to a Butane cylinder at the moment but when that runs out I intend converting permanently to Propane so I reckon I have several months to resolve this problem.I expect I'll end up buying one of those Propane regulators with a gauge that I linked to on ebay & swap the gauge with the one on my existing regulator (if it fits) because that has a secondary pointer which makes it easier to identify any pressure drop & cut the end off my hose to add a jubilee clip.Oh happy days!
OH & Yo Ho Ho & A Merry Christmas to you all
VicS
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Why would I realise that when my experience is here in the UK & not the Continent?
Thanks for the link to that regulator but it does not have a gauge which I consider essential to keep an eye on the soundness of the system nor does it have the threaded connection that would enable me to connect it direct to the existing infrastructure.
I have got my regulator bodged to a Butane cylinder at the moment but when that runs out I intend converting permanently to Propane so I reckon I have several months to resolve this problem.I expect I'll end up buying one of those Propane regulators with a gauge that I linked to on ebay & swap the gauge with the one on my existing regulator (if it fits) because that has a secondary pointer which makes it easier to identify any pressure drop & cut the end off my hose to add a jubilee clip.Oh happy days!
OH & Yo Ho Ho & A Merry Christmas to you all
A pressure gauge on the high pressure side of a regulator is a very crude method of monitoring the soundness of the system. It only takes a small amount of gas leaking past the cylinder valve to mask a leak in the system and lull you into a false sense of security. A bubble type of leak detector is a far more sensitive, reliable and convenient to use device for monitoring the soundness of the system.
A bottle mounted regulator is normally connected to system via a flexible hose . This will fit between the Fulham nozzle on the regulator and a similar nozzle on the fixed pipework so I don't understand your objection to a regulator not having a threaded outlet.
I don't recall the details of the regulator you say you linked to, nor can I find the link.
If it was only a 37mbar regulator then your appliances, which we now know operate at 50 mbar, will not perform so well at the lower pressure especially on propane at a lower pressure.
Worm drive hose clamps such as Jubilee clips are bordering on the unsatisfactory on hose as small as gas hoses. Mini clips such as these are far better
PaulRainbow
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Nicholas123
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By the way Vic......I had no reason to tell you "this important information" right from the outset as it has bugger all to do with the original question & point of this thread does it
You lot have gone off on a tangent getting all worked up about the longevity of regulators & bits of pipe.The consequences of not following 'experts' hallowed advice & consequent inevitable explosions & consequences to the planet & life on earth here in general.
It is you lot that have confused the original topic by getting carried away with all things gas & it's consequences hav'nt you?
I shall remind you lot because I'm sure reading the original post & sticking to the topic is far to much like hard work.The original enquiry was about conversion pieces to enable me to connect my existing regulator to Calor gas bottles & very little else. Now where was I? Oh yes it is time to have a cup of tea
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VicS
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By the way Vic......I had no reason to tell you "this important information" right from the outset as it has bugger all to do with the original question & point of this thread does it
You lot have gone off on a tangent getting all worked up about the longevity of regulators & bits of pipe.The consequences of not following 'experts' hallowed advice & consequent inevitable explosions & consequences to the planet & life on earth here in general.
It is you lot that have confused the original topic by getting carried away with all things gas & it's consequences hav'nt you?
Now where was I? Oh yes it is time to have a cup of tea
You rejected the adapters to fit a propane bottle and the special washer sold to enable German regulators, such as yours to fit standard Calor fittings that I found for you. So if these are not suitable or not acceptable to you and you are not prepared to go to Southampton Calor Centre for advice then the answer to your original question AFAICS is, as I have already said, "No it cannot be done"
Despite claiming to be a qualified gas engineer, you resort to a bodge to keep an obsolete regulator well past its retirement age in use. Something no responsible gas engineer worth a toss would consider doing. You don't bodge gas installations!
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Nicholas123
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I don't need to prove how clever i am, i already know how clever i am
Yeah & you proved it with your post number 31 in my Sepplefricke thread http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...ker-as-well-as-the-Soviets-would-nt-you/page4 did'nt you
Nicholas123
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How the hell would you know Vic when you have never worked as a gas engineer or been qualified in that field have you mate? ( I actually encountered any number of bodgers while in the industry & I would'nt let them anywhere near an installation of mine but that's another matter). I can see I should'nt have used word bodge with a pedant like you however.I adapted it!
As for your continued remark about that adapter & "special washer." It simply is'nt suitable.It looks nothing like my regulator & it's mating face.
If you can't accept that never having seen my regulator you are just going to have to continue living in cloud cuckoo land.
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PaulRainbow
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Yeah & you proved it with your post number 31 in my Sepplefricke thread http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...ker-as-well-as-the-Soviets-would-nt-you/page4 did'nt you
How so ?
VicS
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You mention that this regulator has a 7mm spigot. You did also say that you would post a photograph but apart from one failed attempt to do so nothing has materialised along those lines. It would help enormously to have some idea what connection looks like
Posting photos on the forum is hardly rocket science. My personal preference is to use Photobucket but the inbuilt method of inserting an image as an attachment works quite satisfactorily although image size and storage space limit its appeal somewhat. Posting an image using Tinypic is however as "easy as falling off a log"
However perhaps I have found the type of fitting anyway
If so this is the adapter to fit it to a 21.8mm LH UK Calor fitting - - - -
And I still think you will find that the "special washer" will fit over the 7mm spigot to enable it to directly fit the propane cylinder adapter I located earlier.
Nicholas123
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You can't ignite the gas before you turn it on.I would have thought a five year old could tell you that.Don't you know any five year old's?
Nicholas123
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You mention that this regulator has a 7mm spigot. You did also say that you would post a photograph but apart from one failed attempt to do so nothing has materialised along those lines. It would help enormously to have some idea what connection looks like
Posting photos on the forum is hardly rocket science. My personal preference is to use Photobucket but the inbuilt method of inserting an image as an attachment works quite satisfactorily although image size and storage space limit its appeal somewhat. Posting an image using Tinypic is however as "easy as falling off a log"
However perhaps I have found the type of fitting anyway
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If so this is the adapter to fit it to a 21.8mm LH UK Calor fitting - - - -
And I still think you will find that the "special washer" will fit over the 7mm spigot to enable it to directly fit the propane cylinder adapter I located earlier.
When you fell off your log Vic were you using UBUNTU?
Like on any number of other occasions you have assumed that your situation is the same as those of others & it ai'nt necessarily so.
As for that adapter: That is about the worst Engineering drawing I think I have ever seen.It makes my head hurt just to look at it & I can't see how either piece would be any use trying to fit my regulator to a Calor Butane bottle.
I will give you top marks for persistence but without a photo of my regulator I appreciate the difficulty for you.Maybe I shall have another attempt uploading photo's some other time but frankly I have tried on so many occasions that I am sick & tired of the whole business.I don't recall have the same problems with Windows XP........though this sites picture uploader I think has always except the brief first occasion I used it been diabolical.I have never had the same problems on other sites with windows XP.Make of that what you will.
VicS
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Well do the first two images, which are not intended to be engineering drawings and i am surprised you thought they were, show the type of connector on your regulator or not? They certainly match the limited description you have given.
The third image, a photograph I think you will find, certainly not an engineering drawing, shows the adapter that will connect the German KLF connector shown in the first two images to a standard UK lpg fitting.
If your regulator does have the KLF fitting depicted by the first two images then the adapter in the third will be the answer your original question.
Try again to post a photo of your regulator. I suggest you use Tinypic as that really is the simplest method I know of and works perfectly well on this site.
If you really cannot post a photo then a dimensioned sketch or diagram will suffice, perhaps be even better. A proper engineering drawing will also be acceptable .
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PaulRainbow
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Your stupidity appears to know no bounds. When lighting ones gas cooker one is supposed to press and hold the ignite button just before pressing the gas knob. That way you don't get a big whoosh as all of the unburned gas ignites.
I do know some five year olds and i've checked with them all, they do know how to correctly light a gas ring. PM me you address and i'll send one round to explain it to you :encouragement:
vyv_cox
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VicS, your patience exceeds that of the average saint. :encouragement:
VicS
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And believe it or not i have now found the fitting that should adapt your German regulator to fit directly onto a Calor propane cylinder without any "special washers"
http://www.socal.co.uk/toolbox/regulators-adaptors/cylinder-adaptors/gok/gok-regulator-adaptor-for-use-with-calor-gas-propane-cylinders.html
Available from Southampton Calor Centre, where you were advised to go for help quite early on in the thread.
Do something sensible towards finding an answer to this.. Get off your backside, get yourself to Socal and check it out.
I have now identified your regulator
It is avaialble with a variety of inlet fittings but you have not provided enough information the identify which.
If the fitting from Socal suggested above does not fit and they are unable to help then perhaps you be able to get help from Cavagna UK at http://www.cavagna.co.uk/contact.php
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ghostlymoron
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I admire your persistence, Vic. Lesser mortals would have given up days ago particularly with the abuse you have received. All that remains now is a thank you from Nic.
VicS
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The various inlet fittings are poorly illustrated in the Cavagna brochure but they are well illustrated in the GOK catalogue at https://www.gok-online.de/assets/web/download/kataloge/Katalog LPG regulators 2009_GB_5901012.pdf on pages 71 to 78
The KLF fitting is the one used for small German cylinders but the dimensioned diagrams should enable the actual fitting to be identified if not a KLF.
VicS
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And here is a picture which shows how the " special washers" mentioned earlier in the thread fit on the German regulator with a 7 mm spigot
As I suspected, and suggested, they fit over the spigot
Combined with the propane cylinder connector shown they will enable a safe and satisfactory connection to be made to a UK propane cylinder. However probably not needed if the propane cylinder connector mentioned in #276 is used as that incorporates a joint washer.
As I suspected, and suggested, they fit over the spigot
Combined with the propane cylinder connector shown they will enable a safe and satisfactory connection to be made to a UK propane cylinder. However probably not needed if the propane cylinder connector mentioned in #276 is used as that incorporates a joint washer.
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Caladh
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I'm so engrossed in this thread that I'm now waiting with much anticipation for a reply ! Happy new Year