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I wonder why it is that, having answered a Posters question based on many years of experience someone will then pop up and say - a la Harry Enfield - "Nah......you don't wanna do it thaaaat way, you wanna do it thiiiiiis way".

Perhaps their Chalfonts are playing up.
 
chinita said:
I wonder why it is that, having answered a Posters question based on many years of experience someone will then pop up and say - a la Harry Enfield - "Nah......you don't wanna do it thaaaat way, you wanna do it thiiiiiis way".

Perhaps their Chalfonts are playing up.
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An OP is not obliged to take the first advice proffered, someone else might have another view, it happens.
 
It is not what they say, it is rather the way they say it; It is interesting to see how wrong some people can be with their "advices". Well, we are all different and we should all feel free to express ourselves the way we know best; it takes all sorts......
 
chinita said:
I wonder why it is that, having answered a Posters question based on many years of experience someone will then pop up and say - a la Harry Enfield - "Nah......you don't wanna do it thaaaat way, you wanna do it thiiiiiis way".

Perhaps their Chalfonts are playing up.
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I have many many many years of experience at getting things wrong.... :D
 
chewi said:
An OP is not obliged to take the first advice proffered, someone else might have another view, it happens.
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I realise that and I also know that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Perhaps I should have made myself clearer. I am referring to those who suggest that your solution/advice/method is wrong when, clearly, it is stated that the solution/advice/method is tried and tested and works.
 
chinita said:
I realise that and I also know that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Perhaps I should have made myself clearer. I am referring to those who suggest that your solution/advice/method is wrong when, clearly, it is stated that the solution/advice/method is tried and tested and works.
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LImited experience, I suggest, combined with answers coming with no context.

For any specific question, the answer for say an Anderson 22 will almost cetainly be different for say, a Bavaria 45.

As an example, how many people on this board have years of experience with, say, more than one anchor? I can think of a few but the usual advice is "I've had one of these .... for years and it hasn't failed me yet".
 
Vive la difference.

A key point of a forum surely is to canvas views from different perspectives - it is up to the reader to form his or her on judgement having weighed up any pearls of wisdom cast into the pot. Volume of posts does not guarantee a solution or that a particular recommendation will suit all. Take something as simple as dealing with cold and wet handy wandies during winter sailing. Many learned and experienced sailers post glowing reports about a particular brand of sailing gloves. I find them hopeless - after a few hours they freeze my hands and once they get wet they take forever to dry onboard my little ship. I gave mine a trial on a 28 hour solo passage to windward in a January gale earlier this year -gave up with them quickly to stop hands falling off and a fortnight later they were still wet inside. The only thing that works for me is to acknowledge that hands will be wet but they can be warm so I use neoprene divers gloves - the 2mm ones allow very good dexterity and are far superior in arduous conditons. That is not to rubbish the strong recommendations of others - but I think a "minority report" is worth reading for other experiences.
One of the benefits of experience is of course that with sufficient application you can repeat your mistakes more perfectly the next time:o.

Robin
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chinita said:
I realise that and I also know that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Perhaps I should have made myself clearer. I am referring to those who suggest that your solution/advice/method is wrong when, clearly, it is stated that the solution/advice/method is tried and tested and works.
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It is even more galling when you KNOW that the alternative suggested is very wrong
 
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC said:
It is not what they say, it is rather the way they say it; It is interesting to see how wrong some people can be with their "advices". Well, we are all different and we should all feel free to express ourselves the way we know best; it takes all sorts......
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Yes, recently I managed to get the wrong side of a couple of posters whose style just rubbed me up the wrong way. Short aggressive-interrogative posts and 'you know nothing - look it up' tone of voice. It wouldn't be too bad if I set myself up as an expert or even if I were the one starting the thread asking for advice -but when I'm trying to give my tuppence worth and the said 'expert' posters turn on me to try to force 'education' down my throat, it's a bit much.

Part of the problem seems to be that some of us approach these forums in a spirit of giving a chum a bit of well-meant help and it's up to him to do with it what he likes, while others think that every question demands one right answer and those who don't agree with that answer are dangerous heretics who should have their internet connections castrated. Personally, I'm in the former camp.

Also the lack of sense of humour is strange. You wouldn't think any of us would last five minutes on most happy boats if we adopted the same po-faced big-expert tone with the rest of the crew as some do on here. Sailing without a sense of humour must be nigh impossible!

This is not to denigrate the real experts, indicators of whose expertise (in my book) are humility and not talking down to people.
 
What is far more annoying is the poster who repeats the same answer you have already given as though your post didn't exist.

They either are too bloody lazy to read the thread, too self-important to accept that someone has the same opinion or to rude to say "Yes, as Forumite Joe has said....blah blah"
 
What is far more annoying is the poster who repeats the same answer you have already given as though your post didn't exist.

They either are too bloody lazy to read the thread, too self-important to accept that someone has the same opinion or to rude to say "Yes, as Forumite Joe has said....blah blah"
 
Something I find annoying is people who contradict advice offered by a person with professional knowledge of the field. OK, we mostly don't advertize our professions on here, but it is usually obvious after a while that some people are experts in their field - for example, vyv_cox on various engineering and metallurgical issues, jonic on brokerage. Someone who comes along and simply contradicts - without evidence - one of these people annoys me no end. And it has driven away some excellent contributors - refueler, anyone?
 
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Lakesailor said:
What is far more annoying is the poster who repeats the same answer you have already given as though your post didn't exist.

They either are too bloody lazy to read the thread, too self-important to accept that someone has the same opinion or to rude to say "Yes, as Forumite Joe has said....blah blah"
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And then to make it worse, the person who posted second, gets thanked for it.

We almost need a name for that kind of scenario. We could call it after you Lakey!
 
jbweston said:
... Also the lack of sense of humour is strange. You wouldn't think any of us would last five minutes on most happy boats if we adopted the same po-faced big-expert tone with the rest of the crew as some do on here. Sailing without a sense of humour must be nigh impossible!
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Though of course there are quite a few single-handers around... But then, the ability to laugh at yourself can be useful, too!

Mike.
 
jbweston said:
Yes, recently I managed to get the wrong side of a couple of posters whose style just rubbed me up the wrong way. Short aggressive-interrogative posts and 'you know nothing - look it up' tone of voice. It wouldn't be too bad if I set myself up as an expert or even if I were the one starting the thread asking for advice -but when I'm trying to give my tuppence worth and the said 'expert' posters turn on me to try to force 'education' down my throat, it's a bit much.
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Perhaps if you had followed that advice you might have found it helpful. Not forcing "education" down your throat. Just suggesting that your position was out of line with well established principles and practice and referring you to authoritative sources to suggest it is not just "self appointed experts" who were disagreeing with you.
 
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