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Maybe it is just me :) - but I find it increasingly difficult to identify the differences between the Scuttlebutt section of the forum and the PBO section (and sometime both sections and the Liveaboard section).

Primarily lots of servicing queries in Scuttlebutt and 'foreign' queries, foreign to the UK, anywhere.

Or does it not matter?

Jonathan
 
Evidence, but maybe my interpretation of evidence is wrong, suggests they do not care.

Why have 2 separate Forum if it does not matter?

Why not merge the 2.

I like the idea that the PBO forum focusses on practical matters (including MoBos) and Scuttlebutt focus on, sail, cruising matters, excluding the practical side. But that's just me :)

Jonathan
 
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I often get confused, when someone posts a question/statement/ discussion point. and then a couple of people take it off topic, and spend most of the thread arguing amongst themselves, it gets very boring.
 
Agree with Neeves. Pretty pointless having two fairly identical forums linked to magazines that will no doubt soon be disappearing.
 
Biggles Wader said:
Should this be in Forum News and Feedback?:o
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Only posted as such as I had thought there was a difference between the 2 Forum - but the threads indicate that difference does not exist in the minds of many - and one does not want to be confrontational - over something of little importance. Now something that may impinge on safety - I have slightly different views.

But I never read Forum News and Feedback - and I suspect I'm not alone

Jonathan
 
Why fix it if it ain't broke? There remains a useful distinction but if it isn't always adhered to then little harm is done in my view.
 
Neeves said:
Certainly no harm is done it just all seems a bit untidy.

Jonathan
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You should see their offices..... :rolleyes:


Akshully, that's just a bit unkind. In the good old days, the PBO offices at Poole were run by the Redoubtable Roz. She knew where everything was and, almost as important, where it ought to be. Editors came and went, now and then, but Roz was immovable. Irreplaceable.

And there's no Roz at Farnborough....

Ah, yes. Farnborough. Where the clutch of 'ti-media' boaty mags is now housed, in a large, expensive rectangular warehouse in a large, expensive business park. At Poole, one could look out the window and see the sea. And boats. That suffused into the writing. At Farnborough, they can't.... and it doesn't.

At Poole, skilled staff had their individual desks, their workplaces, their involvement and presence. At Farnborough, they don't. Not even cubicles. It's rather like a turkey farm, with AC and lighting on a timer.

Most successful 'interest' mags have staff that are fanatics, nerds, for that particular interest..... England, USA, Aus, Sweden, France. A bit like tobacco smokers' reek, it seems to seep into their clothes, their workplace, their communications. We sense that, and it is in part responsible for why we buy into that circle with our subscriptions. We join that community. We expect and enjoy their strongly-held opinions. We even sometimes share them.

But.... our sailing mags are no longer strongly individual, reflecting the individuals who produce them. No Denny Desoutter, no George Taylor, no Geoff Pack. They have blended into an amorphous, anodyne outpouring of advertorials. Strangled by PC and GDPR constraints, choked by corporate accountants, blinkered and blinded by marketing diktats, they are dying on their feet. Or their bottoms.

And even their forums are eviscerated and bowdlerised.
 
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