Code 0 Furlers?

[pagoda]

I've been recommended to look at the Facnor FX 4500 + and/or the Karver KF 5 endless line furlers (for a code 0)
There are a few comments here and there, does anybody have any comparative ideas?
I am familiar with standard gennaker handling- but not furlers for that style of sail.
TIA

 

[knuterikt]

I've been recommended to look at the Facnor FX 4500 + and/or the Karver KF 5 endless line furlers (for a code 0)
There are a few comments here and there, does anybody have any comparative ideas?
I am familiar with standard gennaker handling- but not furlers for that style of sail.
TIA

What type of sail.
Furling code 0 is different from furling a gennaker (aka asymmetric spinnaker)
Facnor have the AFX for asymmetric and FX for code 0

 

[Tranona]

Not familiar with the Facnor, but the Karver is top of the range and has a ratchet block which you may consider useful. Selden are arguably the most popular, but there are others such as Harken or Crusader's own.

Suggest you talk to your sailmaker about what sort of sail you intend using and for a recommendation for a furler. Most offer more than one brand, but worth talking to two or three to get a wider range of opinions (or end up more confused!)

 

[pagoda]

The sail is a (huge) Code 0. There is also a conventional gennaker plus snuffer on the boat- which will be used as is. The furling drum was sold by mistake by the owner among a van-load of racing sails about six months before I got the boat. :-( Hence the question!

 

[Tranona]

The sail is a (huge) Code 0. There is also a conventional gennaker plus snuffer on the boat- which will be used as is. The furling drum was sold by mistake by the owner among a van-load of racing sails about six months before I got the boat. :-( Hence the question!

Then suggest back to the manufacturers or agents for a sales pitch on their offerings.

 

[dom]

Somewhat tangentially, code zeros are good cruising sails in that they can help power up a boat just off the wind without the hassle of a spin. Fitting a decent furler ensures it can be easily deployed and consequently often flown; so is a great idea in principle.

Agree with other comments but as this is an ex racing sail it is worth bearing in mind the difference between racing and cruising Code 0s. Cruising 0s can be quite large and cut anywhere from deepish to v.flat as required. Racing 0s however tend to be more rule constrained: i.e. midgirth of >75% of the foot length and a leech <95% of luff length. They also tend to be v flat and sometimes area restricted by a formula involving the luff, leech, foot and mid girth parameters.

It might be worth checking whether the sail in question is truly suitable for cruising before throwing lots of £££s at it.

 

[Lucky Duck]

IIRC on my code 0 the luff rope, etc are all specific to the Selden furler fitted to it so I would expect the OP would need to fit an identical furler to one accidentally sold by the boat's previous owner.

 

[Ingwe]

IIRC on my code 0 the luff rope, etc are all specific to the Selden furler fitted to it so I would expect the OP would need to fit an identical furler to one accidentaly sold by the boat;s previous owner.

This is probably the most important thing, not the rope so much, but the thimbles (the metal pieces on the end of the luff rope) will be specific for a certain furler and to change to different thimbles would probably require an entire new luff rope as you won't be able to re-splice the current one.

 

[dunedin]

I've been recommended to look at the Facnor FX 4500 + and/or the Karver KF 5 endless line furlers (for a code 0)
There are a few comments here and there, does anybody have any comparative ideas?
I am familiar with standard gennaker handling- but not furlers for that style of sail.
TIA

Can't comment on the makes indicated, but we have a ProFurl NEX furler on our Code 0. Works very well and would recommend it.

Ours had never been used so had to set up the first time. Rather than lead the furling rope all the way back to the cockpit, like a genoa furler, we were advised to run the continuous loop furling rope to near the main shrouds, where it runs through a s/s ring and held tensioned by elastic which is hooked onto the toerail.

PS As a "Code 0" I am assuming this means it is set with the luff rope tight (winched up very tight on ours), as opposed to a gennaker where the luff is loose and free flying (though sometimes nowadays tethered loosely to a furling torque rope)

 

[knuterikt]

Facnor have a solution making it possible to use same furler for both genaker (asymmetric) and code 0, I don't know what other makes have.

Here is some pictures of my (old) Facnor FX furler, I use the same fulerer for both genaker nad code 0

top swivel code 0

Tack code 0

Code 0, luff rope inside the luff.

Top genaker

Tack Genaker, this swivel fits the furler

Genaker, notice the black anti torsion rope.

Furler with tack swivel for genaker (no sail), adjustable tack with 1:2 led to winch. This setup prevent the the furler from rotating.