SAWDOC
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It is often written that the Sadler 32 was a design progression on the Contessa 32. Has anything better come along since in terms of seaworthiness, speed and comfort?
CO32, Sadler 32, then what??
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FullCircle
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No, they stopped when they reached perfection.
Bosun Higgs
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Yes. The Starlight 35 is in many ways a modern incarnation of the Contessa. Slim hull, beautifully balanced, tough as old boots, sails very well but definitely a cruiser racer rather than an outright racer.
rudolph_hart
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Sadler 34?
Twister_Ken
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The Starlight, lovely tho' she is, can hardly be described as slim. 3.51m beam. Hardly podgy, but only a few cm less than some of the bloated AWBs.
Neil_Y
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Bavaria 320? only 3.20 beam on a 10.60 LOA.
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FullCircle
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Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 35 is 3.49m beam......
Robin
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Well the designer's own boat progression went Co26, Co32, Sadler 32, Contest 43. The Contest was not his design, but he went off RTW in that one. Still at least it could be abbreviated to Co43?
Twister_Ken
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Benny Oceanis 34
3.65m
Benny First 35
3.64m
Jenny Sun Oddity 36
3.59m
Bavvy Cruiser 35
3.60m
Elan Impression 34
3.49m
Elan 340
3.48m
Hanse 350
3.55m
So, the Oceanis wins the fat slag prize.
3.65m
Benny First 35
3.64m
Jenny Sun Oddity 36
3.59m
Bavvy Cruiser 35
3.60m
Elan Impression 34
3.49m
Elan 340
3.48m
Hanse 350
3.55m
So, the Oceanis wins the fat slag prize.
lw395
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Lots of boats have more speed.
Seaworthiness is multi-faceted.
A lot of C032's are not as seaworthy as they should be because the gear is all worn out, this applies equally to any aging boat with a limited maintenance budget or boat with cheap gear.
Comfort is a matter of opinion, perhaps you trade the comfortabe motion of an older design for the comfort of more space etc.
In terms of value for money, the Contessa gives only a moderate return on these three criteria.
But they do have class racing, and some people like the look of them....
FullCircle
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robertj
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sadler 34
sailorman
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if you want to go to windward get a 34 fin
Vara
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An accusation which has never been levelled at you
.I've never rated CO 32's, wet, not particularly fast (tho close winded) and accommodation not suitable for normal sized people. Sadler slightly better but only on the margins.
Rightly IMO, sailing has moved on from being a branch of Adventure Training, with it's concomitant discomforts, to a pleasurable leisure pursuit.
(Ice in my G&T and pop the paella in the microwave).
sailorman
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An accusation which has never been levelled at you
I've never rated CO 32's, wet, not particularly fast (tho close winded) and accommodation not suitable for normal sized people. Sadler slightly better but only on the margins.
Rightly IMO, sailing has moved on from being a branch of Adventure Training, with it's concomitant discomforts, to a pleasurable leisure pursuit.
(Ice in my G&T and pop the paella in the microwave).
Some MABs have Microwaves
FullCircle
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Some MABs have Microwaves
Some AWBs have had microwaves put specifically on the no-no list. Along with TV.
H4B
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You have all over looked the best of the lot .
The Westerly Fulmar.
Similar value ,same size but faster, more comfortable and not as wet to windward.
The Westerly Fulmar.
Similar value ,same size but faster, more comfortable and not as wet to windward.
dunedin
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Cor, you're brave, challenging the old icons and the "old designs are better than new" principle !
Next you will be suggesting one of these new fangled German BMW's are better than a Morris Minor
PS Agre with subsequent post that Fulmar was the next progression at this size
puddock
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sailorman
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beniblobbies have a narrow max wl beam with large overhangs midships
