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[awol]

I notice this comes in the wake of the Finnart terminal being wound down.

How's this for a conspiracy theory? Ineos lose their court case against Peel Ports re parking a tanker at Finnart and using it as a storage tank to buy crude cheap and sell when price is up. Being pissed off at having to pay "conservancy" on that tanker Ineos take the hump and close Grangemouth so no more huge tankers sailing up the Clyde. Peel Ports needing to recover lost revenue look around for an easy target. Just 'cos I'm paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get me!

 

[SaltIre]

Thread drift, but the tanker Australis has been moored at Finnart since March 2019. Anybody know the story?
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[Geoff Wode]

How's this for a conspiracy theory? Ineos lose their court case against Peel Ports re parking a tanker at Finnart and using it as a storage tank to buy crude cheap and sell when price is up. Being pissed off at having to pay "conservancy" on that tanker Ineos take the hump and close Grangemouth so no more huge tankers sailing up the Clyde. Peel Ports needing to recover lost revenue look around for an easy target. Just 'cos I'm paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get me!

Point taken but I still want my 5% on the Netflix rights.

 

[dgadee]

How's this for a conspiracy theory? Ineos lose their court case against Peel Ports re parking a tanker at Finnart and using it as a storage tank to buy crude cheap and sell when price is up. Being pissed off at having to pay "conservancy" on that tanker Ineos take the hump and close Grangemouth so no more huge tankers sailing up the Clyde. Peel Ports needing to recover lost revenue look around for an easy target. Just 'cos I'm paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get me!

But the Forth has terminals to Grangemouth. How does that fit in?

 

[awol]

But the Forth has terminals to Grangemouth. How does that fit in?

Maybe Ineos is fed up paying the Canadian Fund owners of Forth Ports as well?

 

[dgadee]

Maybe Ineos is fed up paying the Canadian Fund owners of Forth Ports as well?

You should have had a career as a conspiracy theorist. You are very good at it.

 

[awol]

You should have had a career as a conspiracy theorist. You are very good at it.

I didn't realise that was a career path I could follow. There was only the National Enquirer in the colonies, no internet and a much simpler world.
As for Peel Ports, I am more inclined towards believing simple greed because they can.

 

[ylop]

But the Forth has terminals to Grangemouth. How does that fit in?

They can receive oil at either side, Finnart saves anything coming from the west the time of going round the top of Scotland and back. Finished fuel will still be coming in to the forth to put into big tanks and then move for onward distribution.

 

[Biggles Wader]

I thought Grangemouth was being closed down

 

[ylop]

I thought Grangemouth was being closed down

The refinery is closing, so will no longer receive crude oil tankers (either at Finnart or the Forth) but it will remain as a massive tank farm and distribution hub so refined fuel will arrive from other refineries and be offloaded. The other thing many people don’t appreciate as they drive past grangemouth is that it doesn’t just refine oil into fuel but also makes various chemicals - that bit of the business runs pretty independently already (it has separate ownership) and will remain (for now at least).

Even after grangemouth closes you will still see crude oil tankers in the forth - because that is where many of them go to collect oil from the North Sea. Its piped down the forth and then loaded on ships. Ironically less and less of that oil has been used at Grangemouth. Whilst we probably all think oil and fuel is a path to riches, the refining and petrol distribution end of the business is very competitive.