clutch or cleat?

[OceanSprint]

Currently my genoa haliyard is led back to the cockpit through a deck Organiser. This seems a waste, as once it is up and tensioned it is never touched. I want to use the space in the organiser to add reefing lines to the cockpit.

I was thinking of getting a local engineer to fit a cleat to the mast, but I see another thread referring to clutches on the mast. Which is best? Any advice please?

 

[prv]

I have a winch on the mast, followed by a cleat, so I can tension the halyard and then cleat it off. If you don't have a winch on the mast, how do you propose to tension the halyard, and can you then get it onto the cleat without losing the tension? There are ways, but you need to have thought about it.

Pete

 

[Daydream believer]

double stack the organiser to get extra leads & place a clutch in reach of the cockpit

 

[sailorman]

Currently my genoa haliyard is led back to the cockpit through a deck Organiser. This seems a waste, as once it is up and tensioned it is never touched. I want to use the space in the organiser to add reefing lines to the cockpit.

I was thinking of getting a local engineer to fit a cleat to the mast, but I see another thread referring to clutches on the mast. Which is best? Any advice please?

My genoa halliard is led aft & is always tweeked as i sail, it is also slackened off before the last furl of the day.

 

[Seajet]

As Daydream Believer says, stack another organiser on top of the present one/s, most deck organisers are designed to allow this; just try to avoid them becoming trip-wire type traps for people by the mast, which may well require blocks at the mast foot to keep the leads low - these blocks are often best if kept upright by springs.

You can never have too many spaces on organisers and clutches, cleats; I have 4 a side but could do with at least 5, and then I'd think of something else...

 

[William_H]

When usig a furling jib where halyard stays tight and fixed right through the season then a simple cleat at the mast can be adequate and reduce ropes on cabin top.
I favour the simple plastic horn cleat as being reliable and non slip but may need to be big enough for the rope size. As said it can be difficult to get enough tension on the halyard.
The way to get the greatest tension is to pass the halyard half way around the cleat such that when you pull hard the friction on the cleat will hold the halyard. get someone to then pull the halyard outwards from the mast so tighten ing the halyard then when it is released take the opportunity to pull a bit mor ehalyard past the cleat. Do this several times for max tension. This does require that there be a metre or more of halyard between the mast exit slot and the cleat.
if you use a clutch or cam cleat then the rope can be directed via pulleys back to a winch. Then when the halyard is tight and cleated you remove the halyard from those precious organiserand turn blocks. However in my experience clutch or cam cleat may not hold the halyard tight long term. good luck olewill

 

[Daydream believer]

When using a furling jib where halyard stays tight and fixed right through the season

That is one way to ruin a sail

 

[sailorman]

That is one way to ruin a sail

Quite so & very poor seamanship