Clever Dick Comes Unstuck

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Really. If you are going to argue facts, try to get them right.

He confirmed that his speedometer, which measures the pressure of water that propels the boat, starts measuring at 10mph.

Witness Carl Smalley, 48, who was on the boat, said he watched the speedometer as they had travelled out of the bay and the needle rose from 6mph to 10mph.
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Serves him right. Twat
 
They should apply this charge to ALL owners of chav boats and PWCs at the point of purchase. Well done to this ranger. And yes I am a motor boat owner:)
 
Sounds like the guy who ran into my bro in a back lane and claimed for the 'brake pipe which burst due to the emergency stop while trying to avoid you'
 
You're making assumptions. One person said he was exceeding the limit, two said he wasnt. Why should the magistrate believe one not the other. Proved beyond reasonable doubt? No way from that report.

My father was once stopped for driving round the wrong side of a roundabout. He hadnt done so. What the plod didnt realise when he stopped him and made the accusation was that he had in the car the mayor and two members of the watch committee. One blustering plod with a very red face. So can you always believe the unsupported evidence of a policeman?
 
The ranger recorded the boat using hi-tech video binoculars for around 40 seconds while Wilkinson covered a quarter of a mile of the lake.

“I decided to intervene to catch up with the boat because I didn’t want to be tearing up the lake to get to it.

“We have an advanced GPS speedometer which is accurate to within a fraction of one per cent. The speed was reading between 19.5 and 22 knots in the period I was following him.
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So the Ranger was in fact lying?

Previous cases Note that
Julie Wood, head of legal services for LDNPA, said: “It is possible for the ranger to record the speeding boat without being seen first; previously they would have had to trail the boat to get an accurate reading.’’
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I can't see this standing up in an appeal since there is no actual evidence of his speed. Even coming from a policeman you can't get a speeding ticket on a road without some form of measurement being taken by calibrated equipment.
 
VIDEO BINOCULARS CATCH SPEEDERS
Pure and utter bu---it. For that to stand up in a court they would have to have a calibration certificate. The person taking the reading would have to also prove the boat was directly approaching or directly going away from them.

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“We have an advanced GPS speedometer which is accurate to within a fraction of one per cent. The speed was reading between 19.5 and 22 knots in the period I was following him.

Following or CATCHING UP.
 
Bleat all you want. That is the way it is done up here.

It is not on the road.

Any boat on the plane and not struggling on the hump is doing more than 10 knots. Simple.

This kind of technology makes it easy.
Kustom Signals, Pro-Lite+

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I can see and agree with both sides posting here; I'm delighted the chav got knobbled, but knowing police I'd be more inclined to go by a photo of the thing planing than by the device mentioned...
 
They are not Police. They are Lake Rangers. Nothing to do with the Police.

The Ranger involved has been a Powerboat Instructor for 15 years. I expect he knows more about boat speed on the lake than most. I expect a video of the transgressor would be vital evidence.
 
Sounds like 'he said, she said' to me; the moral to the story is carry a GPS which will record your speed and enable you to refute accusations if necessary.
 
Don't understand this.

Are PWC designed to be used at less than 10kts? I wouldn't have thought so.

So, why are they permitted on the lake at all? :confused:

Or is it just a nice little earner?
 
There is a right of navigation on the lake. To ban them would have been better, but more difficult. The speed limit did the job in a broad stroke way.

As for Bert T's dismissive post. They have had prosecutions before which went to the High Court and resulted in convictions. The Rangers (and before them, the Wardens) would pace a speeder whilst videoing them and include shots of their own speedo in the vid.
It doesn't require calibrated equipment. Visual evidence is enough.

People are being convicted and fines are big.
Any of the lake-borne forumites will tell you about sportboat drivers and speeding.

If they don't speed they won't get done. Pretty simple.
 
Surely all sport boat and pwc drivers are guilty before they even start. They know that their 'boats' are not suited to this and many other waterways but they still persist. No one should have to put up with their stupidity and thuggish behaviour aided and abetted by some on here whom should know better.
 
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There is a right of navigation on the lake. To ban them would have been better, but more difficult.
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......but worth making the effort for - surely?

I assume that there is a right of navigation on the Leeds and Liverpool canal, but I doubt PWC are permitted.

If it is truly an issue then PWC will, eventually, be banned. If it is not - or cannot be proved to be - an issue, then ok. Let the Park Authority continue its money harvesting and the Chavs wobble back to their housing estates £900 the lighter.
 
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