Clear meths now available in Go Outdoors

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Just been having a look around in Go Outdoors and found 5 litres of Clear Meths to use with the Origo cooker. On the shelves at £15.00 (with discount card) you must be over 18 years of age to purchase. Can only think that Customs & Excise must have relaxed the rules a little.
 
I paid about £12.50 for 5l of the purple stuff from a hardware shop in Windermere a year or two ago. 5l containers have been available for a while, not seen the clear before now. It is better to get it in the bigger bottle though, 500ml from the chemists or a walking shop is silly money.
 
Applescruffs said:
Looks like your dog has found the bottle !
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Could be right!:)
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aquaplane said:
I paid about £12.50 for 5l of the purple stuff from a hardware shop in Windermere a year or two ago. 5l containers have been available for a while, not seen the clear before now. It is better to get it in the bigger bottle though, 500ml from the chemists or a walking shop is silly money.
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I have never seen meths that is not clear!
IDA is colourless. CDA contains a violet dye.
Unless they are contaminated they should both be perfectly clear


There may be a problem over storage of larger bottles than 500cm³.
There is in the "workplace".
The Highly Flammable Liquids and Liquefied Petroleum Gas Regulations allows bottles up to 500cm³ with no special provision for storage but larger containers have to be kept in a proper storage facility for highly flammable liquids.

I'll be surprised if the regulations surrounding the supply of IDA have been relaxed. I the past the Revenue and customs have been quite adamant that use as a cooking fuel is not one of the approved uses. Also unless the regulations have been changed it should only be supplied to someone with a written authorisation from Revenue and Customs to receive it.

All the details are HERE

No changes there to account for the availability of IDA from "Go Outdoors"

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VicS said:
I have never seen meths that is not clear!
IDA is colourless. CDA contains a violet dye.
Unless they are contaminated they should both be perfectly clear


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Ok, I've never seen meths that's not purple & clear, or IMS that's not water white & clear.

You have a good point about storage. The stuff I got was just on the floor infront of a display, no solvent bin or anything, I suspect that it was not stored right.
 
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Clear Methylated Spirit - my description as in...no purple dye in it.

BTW the coloured 5 liter Meths was the same price. There was also a choice in the smaller 500ml bottles clear or coloured.
 
Clear methylated spirits v. isopropyl alcohol?

What is the difference between clear meths and isopropyl alcohol (which is readily available from dealers in furniture restoration materials)?
 
Clear Methylated Spirit - my description as in...no purple dye in it.

BTW the coloured 5 liter Meths was the same price. There was also a choice in the smaller 500ml bottles clear or coloured.
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Colouress you mean .. even the coloured stuff is perfectly clear!

I notice however that it is labelled "mineralised" .. that is the old description of the coloured stuff ( now called CDA or completely denatured alcohol)
It may not be quite what you think it is. It may not be IDA ( industrial denatured alcohol, previously called "industrial methylated spirit" or IMS)
It may be the same as CDA but without the dye.

They should not be supplying IDA,
but CDA should be coloured. :confused:

Don't get caught with it by the R&C.

I'd not store 5 litres of a highly flammable liquid on my boat in a flimsy polythene container like that either.
Gas is safer!
That is kept solid steel cylinders and you don't have to pour it from one thing to another. It is delivered directly from the storage vessel to the point of use.
 
parsifal said:
What is the difference between clear meths and isopropyl alcohol (which is readily available from dealers in furniture restoration materials)?
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Methylated spirit is ethanol ( as in booze) which has been rendered undrinkable by the addition of methanol ( and in the case of CDA other nasty ingredients as well

Isopropyl alcohol is the old name for 2-propanol.

The alcohols start with methanol ( aka methyl alcohol)

followed by ethanol (ethyl alcohol)

then
1-propanol and 2-propanol.

Then the butanols, the pentanols the hexanols the heptanols etc.

From propanol onwards more than one isomer is possible.
 
There are some batches of Barrettine meths that are not properly coloured. I've a two-litre bottle that is almost colourless, bought at the same time as one that was normal colour - both from Trago Mills, at the same time.
 
In the spirit of clarity

Is it just me, or are others getting a bit confused?:(

Common wisdom has it that if un-coloured meths is used in burners, then one will not experience the annoying running and stinging eyes associated with the coloured stuff.

So, what is a legal (in the UK) un-coloured alternative to users of the Origo, Trangia or similar burners?

Perhaps VicS can help us out here.:D

Regards

Paul
 
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