Chi Hbr fees up 16%

[StephenSails]

Re: discount minded attitude

Why not look at it from my perspective ( being 22 years old) the situation here is almost impossible, I cant even afford to get married or even start to think about having kids becuase the cost of living is so much high here. Its not the people who have been living in this village that have forced the prices up, it is the weekenders who have done in the property market.

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[StephenSails]

Re: discount minded attitude

Why not look at it from my perspective ( being 22 years old) the situation here is almost impossible, I cant even afford to get married or even start to think about having kids becuase the cost of living is so much high here. Its not the people who have been living in this village that have forced the prices up, it is the weekenders who have done in the property market.

I think we shall have to agree to disagree on this one friend.



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[StephenSails]

Re: discount minded attitude

I find your remarks unfair and rude. I run a mail order business as it the only viable way to do so in the area I work in. I have not yet lowered my self to calling people names, hope you feel better for it.


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[VicMallows]

Re: discount minded attitude

Chichester Hbr Moorings - Emsworth.

Strange. Why did they remove the southward B3's ?..... I've noticed many unocuppied moorings all year.

Am puzzled about demand at Itchenor......an aweful long journey for most.

Biggest problem everywhere is car parking.

Vic

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[Robin]

No offense taken

And I have some sympathy with some of your points, but it is a very simplistic view. You want to live and work where you were born, very few can do that. I moved 40mls over 35 years ago in order to be able to afford a basic house, and drove that distance daily to work before motorways existed. I worked 2 jobs and my wife worked full time too in order to pay the mortgage.

As the saying goes, 'Life's a bitch and then you die'. You at least have a while longer than us olds before that happens, make the most of it and smell the flowers along the way! Who knows some of the wicked incomers may turn out to be quite nice people.

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[banana]

Re: discount minded attitude

no it isnt mate. its locals selling the houses they bought cheap at ridiculous prices to people from out of town. look at your neighbours before you blame foreigners. your attitude is very naive. and unpleasant.

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[bigmart]

Re: Well now

you know how it feels. Your remarks were hurtful & generally unfounded. As on who does not live too far from Chichester & who keeps a boat there. Your remarks were fairly typical of the whingers who seem to think the world owes them a living. I suspect that when your business goes down the pan, as it undoubtedly will, you will be busy blaming everyone else, for it's demise, instead of looking to the root cause, your own small mindedness.

I for one will continue to sail, both from & in Chichester harbour, somewhat smug in the knowledge that it gets up your nose.

Martin

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[halcyon]

Re: discount minded attitude

Same problem down Cornwall, foreigners buying all the houses at inflated prices, Falmouth has one of the highest house prices rises and lowest wages in the country. Locals do not earn enough to buy hoses, unless they can save 50% deposit. In the four years I've been building this house ( only way I can afford to get a house here ) the value has gone up 400%, but it only just covers the price rises in the village, so having sold my house at a elevated price, and having paid all the fees, I can only buy a house that is inferior to the one I own, or have to take out a much larger mortage. So the idea of locals on a get rich trip does not work I'm, afraid.
Then added to that mooring fees have gone mad, killing the moorings for small old boats that the locals could afford, now we have floating gin palaces.


Brian


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[BarryH]

Re: discount minded attitude

"Why not look at it from my perspective ( being 22 years old) the situation here is almost impossible, I cant even afford to get married or even start to think about having kids becuase the cost of living is so much high here. Its not the people who have been living in this village that have forced the prices up, it is the weekenders who have done in the property market"

Umm think you need to open your eyes and look beyond the borders of "your" village. Thats happened all over the south east, even as far as weymouth and dorchester.
Since "your" village started expanding from what was probably a farm way back in the dark ages, I don't know the exact history, land useage has changed, local industry has changed and the general populace has changed. So its not going to be the same place it was years ago.
As for the weekenders. Again thats happened all along the coast. What you've got to ask yourself is who sold off their homes, making a big wadge of money in the process, for these homes to become "holiday" homes. Well I reckon it was locals who saw a way of making a fair amount of money rather quickly. Where did the local population go? Probably somewhere else to earn decent money in someother part of the county/country. And while we're at it. I get sick of weekly workers coming from the southern coastal counties clogging up the trains and roads in and around london nicking all the jobs! See works both ways don't it
The property prices have risen all over the country by various amounts for quite a few years now, thats life. When I got married and me and my new wife wanted to buy a house we had to scrimp and save every last penny. So your problem of not being able to afford a house is not a new problem for young people wanting to get their first/secon property.
And lastly. With all those boats owned by weekenders as you call them sitting on moorings in chi harbour needing bits and bobs which you supply, is it wise to have a dig at prospective customers as its probably those weekenders giving you and a fair few businesses in the area a living.
Oh one last thing. That chip on your shoulder, can I have it to hold the door open. The wind off the water keeps making it slam.

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[stephenmartin]

Many a reptutation\'s won on silence

You cannot be serious....when I first got married I couldn't afford a house.....we bought a flat....and we managed....then an extra mouth came along so that was even less money....but we managed....then my wife gave up her good job to bring up our 1st child....at the time we really needed the money....but we managed....

Everyone I know has seen this film and can relate to this story and they all manage....why can't you.....I suggest you SHUT UP now before you lose all of your customers....and do what everyone else does...MANAGE

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[StephenSails]

Re: Many a reptutation\'s won on silence

Look, I am just saying that it is not easy and that certain factors have changed which make life a lot harder. Even 5 years ago things would have been easier.

I can manage but I am saying that there are certain problems in this area which do not help. People seem a little over sensitive to my points, its only my opinion and that is all it is, I am on the ground so to speak here in Chichester Harbour area and feel I am qualified to say a little about the factors that effect general living for the people who try to make a go of it. These are things that a regularly reported on in the local press, they are not just locally here but all along the South Coast. When we sailed down to Falmouth this summer we were told about similar or worse problems by the locals in their towns and villages.

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[extravert]

Re: Prejudice & chips from stephen sails

As you run a mail order business, presumably you could live anywhere in the UK. Why not move somewhere cheaper and enjoy uncrowded sailing and a better quality of life?

For example, 3 bed 200 year old detached cottage in Kendal, £82k, Whitehaven marina just down the road, with plenty of space.

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[StephenSails]

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Well I shall look forward to seeing you modge along in your Colvic 26 on a lovely sunny day.

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[oldharry]

Re: Many a reptutation\'s won on silence

As a fellow Chiddestrian, Stephen I think we have to take you up on one or two points. First of all, life is not 'easy' - for any of us. I lived here for a great many years in rented accomodation before I finally got a toe in the property market. House prices in the area have rocketed - yes, but not because of proliferation of weekend cottages, but because the housing market went silly in most parts of the country, and house prices simply took off.

Next, Chichester IS still a place where you can do 'budget boating' - My biggest bill is Insurance. My mooring costs me £160 a year - no not in Itchenor either! I can keep other costs down by using my own skills and expertise, rather than paying.

Chi harbour is great! Why should people not come and share it with us? Its not 'yours', or 'mine' just because we live here.

What does get up my nose is the number of boats used for tax dodging, rather than sailing, that take up berths year in year out and never get out for a sail!

Finally FAO Kim, I thought advertising in the forum was barred..... or does the link on Stephens post for his Chandlery not count as an ad? If not, can I put mine in as well?

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[tcm]

Re: adverts

you can put a link to your site - provided there's a link from there to here, as far as i am aware.

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[tcm]

Re: perhaps?....

they put the fees up to spice up springtime scuttlebutt each year? I always know that the season is almost upon us with the arrival of the annual "the ratbags have put the fees up!" threads

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[robp]

Re: Many a reptutation\'s won on silence

Stephen, I think people are sensitive to your comments because of your generalisation. As others have said, property prices have not rocketed because of weekenders or second homes only. It's happened all over the country and the South is particularly badly hit. I grew up in the Chalfonts and Gerrards Cross in Bucks. Nice area, handy for London. I certainly couldn't afford to buy there in my twenties, so like many others, I moved West into Oxfordshire. (Believe it or not many West Londoners were at that time, escaping to Reading as the "affordable" place). Yes, it's getting harder but it is for ALL youngsters.

As for the out of towners. Not everyone can live by the sea! Therefore the coast belongs to everyone. Remember that many of the goods or services that you rely on are located in places away from you and therefore you enjoy the facilities offered elswhere in the country too! As for rude and thoughtless people - they are everywhere.

Learn to exploit the fact that Chi gets many visitors, it'll work for you in the long run.

Good luck


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[Sans Bateau]

Re: discount minded attitude

What a suprise! someone with a post about the mooring fees!


Vic, I did not know that moorings had been removed, this could be that they had been placed elswere, there is a maximum number of boats that can be kept in Chi harbour at any one time. Given the opertunity the marinas would love to expand, but are restricted. I was told by a Harbour official that the harbour was full last year.

I agree some of the moorings in the Emsworth channel are 'vacant' at some times of the season, we come out of Emsworth marina on a Fri night, most W/E in the summer, to pick up a bouy in the channnel then set off Sat pm, never yet not found a vacant one.

I also agree, Why Itchenor? We originally looked at Birdham Pool before settling on Emsworth and what a slog always against the wind together with what appears to be half the sailing population of the harbour. I've never contemplated a swinging mooring myself, but hey, Vic, lets keep Emsworth a secret, yes?

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[robp]

Re: perhaps?....

Don't!! I'm already in handwringing mode, having received my contract renewal. I don't want to be reminded. I figure that if I keep putting it to the bottom of the pile until the day of expiry, It'll just be that Fait Acompli again!

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[Sans Bateau]

Re: Many a reptutation\'s won on silence

Words of wisdom

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