cheap engine oil for your diesel

Asda was £16 when I was in yesterday, Halfords similar. This is delivered to your door free and I didn't even need to drive to the superstore, load the trolley and drive back.........and yes the classification is fine for my beta
 
In case it helps this is the Beta diesel spec for oil from the hand book:
Engine oil should be MILL- 2104C or have properties of API classification CC/CD/CE grades. The following table gives grades of oil required for various ambient
temperatures.
Note: A good quality 15W/40 mineral or multigrade oil as used in most diesel car engines will meet these requirements.

On the can it says CI 4 which is a newer spec than the cc/cd/ce grading which is now obsolete and if you google that you'll find its fine - at least for my beta
 
Burnham Bob said:
In case it helps this is the Beta diesel spec for oil from the hand book:
Engine oil should be MILL- 2104C or have properties of API classification CC/CD/CE grades. The following table gives grades of oil required for various ambient
temperatures.
Note: A good quality 15W/40 mineral or multigrade oil as used in most diesel car engines will meet these requirements.

On the can it says CI 4 which is a newer spec than the cc/cd/ce grading which is now obsolete and if you google that you'll find its fine - at least for my beta
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But but, you cant just buy oil that easy & know its the correct spec, i mean we need to discuss it thoroughly, to the Nth degree.
You will be buying a new anchor nxt
 
I take that point on board.........when DCI Gene Hunt was describing his latest dream he said 'it involved Diana Dors and a bottle of chip oil' so I agree that correct specification is essential

i shall report back on the suitability of CI 4 in due course
 
I take sailorman's point that this has been discussed almost to death. However, you may like to read http://www.hollonoil.com/PDF/DieselEngineOils-TBN,ULSD,CI4vsCJ4.pdf. Sorry about the Americanisms but it gives good information. The TBN of API CI 4 is high to combat the increased acidity of EGR systems. In a normally aspirated, low power engine this is less than desirable. You could also refer to 'oil for yacht engines' on my website.
 
Currently in Auchan you can get 5 litres of 15W40 API CD Oil (exactly what is prescribed for most yacht engines) for 9 euros.
It is Auchan's own brand.

The Elf stuff is probably API CF which I think is probably OK.
 
Quote from vyv's website

"Yanmar's own oil was to API CD until the introduction of the YM engine, when it became API CI-4. According to Yanmar this oil can be used in all engines requiring API CD upwards. Its TBN is between 10 and 12."

I'm now totally confused as all I wanted to do was pass on a tip for saving money............
 
Burnham Bob said:
Quote from vyv's website

"Yanmar's own oil was to API CD until the introduction of the YM engine, when it became API CI-4. According to Yanmar this oil can be used in all engines requiring API CD upwards. Its TBN is between 10 and 12."

I'm now totally confused as all I wanted to do was pass on a tip for saving money............
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dont worry
as an oil spec is rendered obsolete the new spec will cover all spec`s below that coding.
many here ,get too far "Under the Bonnet", all that sticking out is their new seaboots
 
Burnham Bob said:
Quote from vyv's website

"Yanmar's own oil was to API CD until the introduction of the YM engine, when it became API CI-4. According to Yanmar this oil can be used in all engines requiring API CD upwards. Its TBN is between 10 and 12."

I'm now totally confused as all I wanted to do was pass on a tip for saving money............
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I wrote that as something of a warning, having already explained at some length why using oil with a high TBN was not a good idea in small yacht engines. Yanmar, like Volvo before them, like to sell their own badged oil at a big markup. They don't want to be bothered with different grades for different engines, so they adopted a 'one size fits all' policy. Thus they recommend the same oil for a little 1 GM used for ten minutes at a time as they do for a huge turbocharged mobo engine running for hours on end at maximum revs. This is clearly nonsense and can be verified by looking at the websites of any major oil company.

I believe the oil specified for your engine is to API CD, although I may be a little out of date. As it says on the website, use what is recommended wherever possible. As for the Yanmar YM, i know little about whatever changes were made that led them to believe that API CI-4 was needed but I do know that it does not have EGR, which is what that grade is intended for.
 
sailorman said:
dont worry
as an oil spec is rendered obsolete the new spec will cover all spec`s below that coding.
many here ,get too far "Under the Bonnet", all that sticking out is their new seaboots
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So why do the oil companies continue to produce the old grades? According to your incorrect theory they should simply withdraw the old stuff, as is done with thousands of other products such as detergents, sweets and chocolates and even diesel and gasoline. API CD was declared obsolete in the 1950s but is still being produced, even by the majors, for some markets.
 
sailorman said:
dont worry
as an oil spec is rendered obsolete the new spec will cover all spec`s below that coding.
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Except that it doesn't always work like that. When researching oil to run in my Hillman Imp engine I discovered that one of the new specs was not suitable for the engine. I forget the details now, it was something to do with tappet shims, but was careful to make sure I got an oil with the older specification code.
 
We live in an era of technical information overload, and oil info is certainly not exempt. I've got an old Kawasaki KZ1100 Ltd motorbike and made the mistake of looking at a forum for old 'Kwackers' that had an oil thread a gazillion pages long. I'm old enough to have been riding these bikes when they were new, and always used to fill em with 10/40 mineral (usually RockOil) but after reading numerous pages of that thread I came away doubting myself and totally confused as to what was the best oil to put in my 'old' bike. Came to my senses in the end and just went out and bought some 10/40 mineral and haven't thought about it since... and the bike still purrs like a beauty...
 
vyv_cox said:
So why do the oil companies continue to produce the old grades? According to your incorrect theory they should simply withdraw the old stuff, as is done with thousands of other products such as detergents, sweets and chocolates and even diesel and gasoline. API CD was declared obsolete in the 1950s but is still being produced, even by the majors, for some markets.
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Apart from Morris Lubricants, how many others manufacture CC grade in the UK & how readily is it & at what cost

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[h=1]Golden Film Marine 10w/40 Engine Oil API CC/SF[/h] CODE: CCO
£25.28

(£30.34 inc VAT)
 
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