Centaur prices

Dylan,
I think Jumbleduck may have started this particular hare in his last post-"My names Julian, and this is my Fwiend Stanley, and his Fwiend Bert" smells a lot like LIBOR rate rigging to me.
A lot of those Dealers came from Ethics and Points East, and probably have loadsa time on their hands nowadays;)

So they are price ramping the Centaur Futures Market.

The Spring Yard and Berthing bills/ Contracts from March, plus Harbour Dues (Chi's E-version arrived today) are starting to land on doormats, which always focuses peoples minds.

So with luck, you'll get a sound Plan B one for sure. The trouble is everyone in the Centaur recycling game knows all the cards in your hand, down to the deadline date/time group, Ah Har,Me Hearties :pirate:
 
Tidewaiter2 said:
Dylan,
I think Jumbleduck may have started this particular hare in his last post-"My names Julian, and this is my Fwiend Stanley, and his Fwiend Bert" smells a lot like LIBOR rate rigging to me.
A lot of those Dealers came from Ethics and Points East, and probably have loadsa time on their hands nowadays;)

So they are price ramping the Centaur Futures Market.

The Spring Yard and Berthing bills/ Contracts from March, plus Harbour Dues (Chi's E-version arrived today) are starting to land on doormats, which always focuses peoples minds.

So with luck, you'll get a sound Plan B one for sure. The trouble is everyone in the Centaur recycling game knows all the cards in your hand, down to the deadline date/time group, Ah Har,Me Hearties :pirate:
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and my best chance of tracking down a decent well candidate has always been as a result of a boat yard conversation between two honorable old blokes in a boat yard rather than a broker and two blokes or even three who share an identity and a mobile phone

However, it is all good stuff for the final book

besides Stan assured me that he does not do emails and only uses the web for porn - all most entertaining
 
Following the thread and fingers crossed. When it comes to the design here's my two cents - we had an HT cat with a near central OB in a well, in a badly pitching sea the well would crash down and water shoot up, over time it corroded in innards of the o/b and water in the carb. We should have fitted a neoprene gasket to prevent it.

Like the design of the o/b Centaur, as you say, almost as if...

Maybe the inboard was a last minute idea?
 
Lazy Kipper said:
Following the thread and fingers crossed. When it comes to the design here's my two cents - we had an HT cat with a near central OB in a well, in a badly pitching sea the well would crash down and water shoot up, over time it corroded in innards of the o/b and water in the carb. We should have fitted a neoprene gasket to prevent it.

Like the design of the o/b Centaur, as you say, almost as if...

Maybe the inboard was a last minute idea?
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it was clearly designed to be powered by one of these

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or just as likely

one of these

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both of which would very nearly fit under that curiously shaped tiller
 
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I wonder how easy it will be to sell on a rough Centaur with an outboard - just a thought. Think you said you wouldn't be keeping it for long Dylan. I sound like my ole man but after all this messing about, time and dosh, you could be also selling the thing at a loss next year. It may not be easy to unload. I wonder in a years time if you will regret not waiting a year or two when you could afford a better boat in the first place. "buy well to sell well" You don't want to get stuck with a lemon paying boat storage fees... The yards are full of them.

With the outboard conversion check out Swallow Boats plastic flaps that stops water gushing into the hole and don't forget to widen the aperture big enough to tilt the thing up out of the water. What size engine are you thinking of? 20HP+ maybe.

My Drascombe Drifter was an outboard model, converted to an inboard SAB then converted back to an outboard 6HP (1000kg boat - you wouldn't want less HP around Chichester! Similar to the Centaur it wasn't the most streamlined, efficient thing in the water). The boat was originally designed with a GRP moulding that simply screwed down onto the deck and was GRP'd into postion around the hull so an easy conversion. I wonder if anyone has something simialr knocking about in the yard - maybe chop out an exisiting engine well from a scrap boat. Clearly I havn't a clue what I am talking about but it will be interesting to see how you get on with it all.
 
Zagato said:
I wonder how easy it will be to sell on a rough Centaur with an outboard - just a thought. Think you said you wouldn't be keeping it for long Dylan. I sound like my ole man but after all this messing about, time and dosh, you could be also selling the thing at a loss next year. It may not be easy to unload. I wonder in a years time if you will regret not waiting a year or two when you could afford a better boat in the first place. "buy well to sell well"
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It was Mrs T who added the third line..

Preferably sail the boat you already own.
Or sail the boat you can afford.
Or the perfect boat that's advertised right now and we can borrow for. - if we wait until it's a financial good idea we could be too old to enjoy it.


Do it and do it now. The grand kids will never believe what you could have done
 
JumbleDuck said:
How many boats in how many years, old boy?
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Exactly my point. Apart from the Drascombe Drifter which needed a new coat of paint on the hull the others were in top nick and all sold within 2 weeks of advertising and I even managed to make a few quid - profit enough to buy an average Centaur.

The Drascombe Coaster I have just bought is in as new condition, hardly used by it's ailing owner which is a shame but good for me. It was 3K under price through a broker as it had to go quickly, came with all the extras, cockpit tent, oars, etc, even an unused porta potti and a new 2012 engine, so about 2.5K of extras. The broker said he would love to sell it on himself for a profit but can't be seen to do that! I was lucky once again, got in their as soon as it was advertised with a deposit whilst the other people after it were waiting to view at the weekend etc. Not bragging just saying.

Dylan is in a different position, he has big desire for a Centaur NOW and is not bothered about what it is like as long as it works. Nothing wrong with that but I feel some strange need to advise somebody I don't know to wait a year or two and get a nice example. Nothing to do with me of course but you just don't want to see someone get into a pickle and be worse off next year NOT that is anyway a certainty. Dylan could get more out of it than most by writing articles and attracting volunteer work, reduced items or freebies and if it has a good story and the boat turns out well it won't be difficult to sell as it will have had such good exposure. I tend to put all my new toys up on relevant owners club forums, people are excited about it, helped by all the complimetary comments and desire what ever it is so it is sold before they even come to view! Not that I will ever sell this one...
 
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cheers Z

Zagato said:
Exactly my point. Apart from the Drascombe Drifter which needed a new coat of paint on the hull the others were in top nick and all sold within 2 weeks of advertising and I even managed to make a few quid - profit enough to buy an average Centaur.

The Drascombe Coaster I have just bought is in as new condition, hardly used by it's ailing owner which is a shame but good for me. It was 3K under price through a broker as it had to go quickly, came with all the extras, cockpit tent, oars, etc, even an unused porta potti and a new 2012 engine, so about 2.5K of extras. The broker said he would love to sell it on himself for a profit but can't be seen to do that! I was lucky once again, got in their as soon as it was advertised with a deposit whilst the other people after it were waiting to view at the weekend etc. Not bragging just saying.

Dylan is in a different position, he has big desire for a Centaur NOW and is not bothered about what it is like as long as it works. Nothing wrong with that but I feel some strange need to advise somebody I don't know to wait a year or two and get a nice example. Nothing to do with me of course but you just don't want to see someone get into a pickle and be worse off next year NOT that is anyway a certainty. Dylan could get more out of it than most by writing articles and attracting volunteer work, reduced items or freebies and if it has a good story and the boat turns out well it won't be difficult to sell as it will have had such good exposure. I tend to put all my new toys up on relevant owners club forums, people are excited about it, helped by all the complimetary comments and desire what ever it is so it is sold before they even come to view! Not that I will ever sell this one...
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this is the only summer I will want a big boat - after that it is back to the single handed shallow sailing for which the Minstrel is perfect

This is the last long summer for my University kids - the fact that they have offered to spend it with the old farty man is a great, never to be repeated honour.

so.... gotta find that boat

I am still hoping that Tam Lin will decide to let his boat go ....

D
 
dylanwinter said:
this is the only summer I will want a big boat - after that it is back to the single handed shallow sailing for which the Minstrel is perfect

This is the last long summer for my University kids - the fact that they have offered to spend it with the old farty man is a great, never to be repeated honour.

so.... gotta find that boat

I am still hoping that Tam Lin will decide to let his boat go ....

D
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The chance to spend a last summer with your kids before they take of on their own adventures. is well worth it. if you miss it you will regret it.
Hope it works out one way or the other
 
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