Capt May and his Right???? Shorts?

[Uricanejack]

I saw this Video today taken on Sunday Afternoon near Vashon Island Puget Sound.
Sorry don't know how to post a link so not sure if it will work.

www.seattletimes.com/.../watch-boat-called-nap-tyme-collides-with-washington-state-fer...

Looks like there was no damage. Quite amazing. Wonder if fresh shorts were required?

 

[ex-Gladys]

Busted link (404 error) for me...

 

[CondorAA5A]

 

[dom]

Here it is and the mobo stood on as he should have

https://youtu.be/mtZJ__8PVDU

 

[JumbleDuck]

It looks to me as if the motorboat was on autopilot with nobody keeping any look out at all. The ferry (which should have taken action well before it did) knocks it off course but as soon as contact stops the motorboat returns to its original course for a bit, only changing just before someone appears on deck.

 

[doug748]

A very good illustration of the point that a fast moving ship has the knap hand at longer distance, in terms of avoiding a collision.

At short quarters it is helpless.

 

[Capt Popeye]

Here it is and the mobo stood on as he should have

https://youtu.be/mtZJ__8PVDU

 

[Captn D]

Here it is and the mobo stood on as he should have

https://youtu.be/mtZJ__8PVDU

I am not familiar with the rules applying in Puget Sound. However in a number of harbours (viz: Sydney) official ferries have right of way over pleasure craft, which over rules normal Colregs. The Ferry's hooting should have warned the mobo that trouble was looming. Also there is need to keep a proper lookout!

 

[Capt Popeye]

I am not familiar with the rules applying in Puget Sound. However in a number of harbours (viz: Sydney) official ferries have right of way over pleasure craft, which over rules normal Colregs. The Ferry's hooting should have warned the mobo that trouble was looming. Also there is need to keep a proper lookout!

Humm too too true kind Sir, might I suggest that its a point well worth making, time and time again.

Its no accident that the opening description when reading Colregs states ............ when at Sea, not when in inshore or harbour waters!

 

[davidej]

Here it is and the mobo stood on as he should have

https://youtu.be/mtZJ__8PVDU

Colregs make it clear that no boat should continue to stand on and cause a collision.

 

[dom]

Colregs make it clear that no boat should continue to stand on and cause a collision.

 

[ex-Gladys]

Humm too too true kind Sir, might I suggest that its a point well worth making, time and time again.

Its no accident that the opening description when reading Colregs states ............ when at Sea, not when in inshore or harbour waters!

Sorry, it's:

1. Application(a) These rules shall apply to all vessels upon the high seas and in all waters connected therewith navigable by seagoing vessels.(b) Nothing in these Rules shall interfere with the operation of special rules made by an appropriate authority for roadsteads, harbours, rivers, lakes, or inland waterways connected with the high seas and navigable by seagoing vessels. Such special rules shall conform as closely as possible to these Rules.

 

[Capt Popeye]

Sorry, it's:

1. Application(a) These rules shall apply to all vessels upon the high seas and in all waters connected therewith navigable by seagoing vessels.(b) Nothing in these Rules shall interfere with the operation of special rules made by an appropriate authority for roadsteads, harbours, rivers, lakes, or inland waterways connected with the high seas and navigable by seagoing vessels. Such special rules shall conform as closely as possible to these Rules.

Humm, yep, so does the Motor Boat stand on as posted or not?

 

[Resolution]

From a publication put out by the US authorities:

http://www.uscg.mil/d13/psvts/docs/RecBoat_Pamplet_2013.pdf
"International ―Rules of the Road‖ apply everywhere in the Puget
Sound, including Lake Washington. These rules not only dictate
vessel conduct when meeting, overtaking, or crossing another vessel,
but also specify vessel conduct near a TSS where one exists.
Chances are you are familiar with the charted traffic lanes in the
Puget Sound. If you are not, obtain a nautical chart of the area (s)
you enjoy and familiarize yourself with them. See opposite page for
an example. The traffic lane network in the Puget Sound begins at
buoy J (Juliet) 10 nautical miles (NM) NW of Cape Flattery and
continues to Tacoma’s buoy TC (Tango Charlie), with Rosario
strait, and Haro Strait bound branches stemming from buoy SA
(Sierra Alpha).
Our TSS has two traffic lanes with a separation zone between them
to divide east bound shipping traffic from west bound shipping
traffic, and north and south. TSS buoys are placed at the
termination/turning areas of the lanes and serve to mark the center of
the separation zone. If you wish to avoid oncoming traffic, you
always keep the separation zone, and buoys on your port side. Under
this arrangement you will meet all oncoming traffic “port to port”
with room to spare. The whole idea here is vessel predictability and
safety.
You do not need our permission to use these charted lanes! Simply
abide by the TSS rules: Proceed in the direction of traffic. If joining
or leaving, do so at a TSS buoy by passing the buoy on your port
side. When not near a buoy, join or leave a lane with the direction of
traffic. Avoid the separation zone as much as possible. If it is
necessary to cross the lanes (and separation zone) then do so at right
angles to minimize the time crossing. When not using the lanes, you
are responsible for knowing the location of the TSS, and avoiding
others using it. Above all, don’t impede traffic. Each year,
numerous incidents involve boaters being in the way, or, proceeding
the wrong way in a traffic lane. Often, the vessels they obstruct are
large container ships or tanker that cannot maneuver sharply to
avoid them."

I cannot see any mention of ferries' rights yet.

So has that muddied the waters enough?

 

[Resolution]

OK this one may be more relevant:

http://ptyc.net/wp-content/uploads/Do-Sailing-Vessels-Always-Have-the-Right-of-Way-Over-Ferries-.pdf

Work it out for yourselves!

 

[jimmcgee]

you guys are all of your nuts !! lol , its a big working ferry , your in a weee plastic boat , American Darwin wins again

 

[Capt Popeye]

Humm, so size really does matter then, ie; if smaller its your task to keep out of the way then?

Suggest that the account of Navigation rules by 'Resolution' would indicate (or even state) that there is an exclusion zone around a Ferry so that other vessels should keep clear and reduce speed to facilitate the Ferries course.

Suggest that the Motor Boat did not do either!

So Motor Boat should not have maintained course or speed, err, suggest that is!

 

[NormanB]

The very act of failing to maintain an effective lookout means the skipper of the MB is guilty and prime cause of the collision.

 

[Resolution]

there is an exclusion zone around a Ferry so that other vessels should keep clear and reduce speed to facilitate the Ferries course.

But this seems to be a security exclusion zone, not a COLREGs one. So perhaps if you infringe on the exclusion zone the ferry has rights to blow you out of the water?:encouragement:

 

[merry1992]

Here it is and the mobo stood on as he should have

https://youtu.be/mtZJ__8PVDU

Thnaks