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Thanks another good tip
Cannes boat show 2018
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MapisM
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Possibly from the central part of the hatch, where it's split in two parts?
Just a thought, since as I said mine is in one piece…
PS, ref. the multi purpose pump in your engine room: it seems that DP and Fer used to think along the same lines, because I've also got a large diaphragm pump in the e/r, routed through a manifold with multiple valves, in order to suck from any w/t compartment.
It can't work as a backup of tank pumps though, and I'm a bit puzzled about how it can, in your boat. Is it connected in parallel to the normal pumps?
A nice to have feature indeed, anyway. :encouragement:
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Pinnacle
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Mike. Have you thought about installing a very much smaller pump? There was another thread recently (IIRC involving MapisM) where the possibility of installing a windscreen washer pump from a truck (so it will be 24v and suit your boat) where the inlet and outlet pipes are of quite a small diameter and hence you wont get the same sort of issue where all the water in the pick up pipe flows back down into the bottom of the spoiler compartment. Shouldn’t be too difficult to wire in with a simple switch. Something like this...https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-24-Volt-Windscreen-Washer-Pump/401583908246?hash=item5d80442596:g:-A0AAOSw5cNYY9EU
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You may be right. Actually what I need to do is sit inside the spoiler compartment myself with the hatch closed whilst somebody is spraying water on top to try to find out exactly where it is leaking from
I assume it is connected in parallel to the normal black and grey water pumps. This is the manifold on the suction side for using it
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Yup that is exactly what I am thinking about. Thanks for the tip
PS apologies to Bouba for hijacking his thread
MapisM
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Nicely built indeed. Am I right in understanding that it's placed on the rear e/r bulkhead?
That's a long way to reach the fwd boat sections, grey and black water tanks included!
Just for the records, in my setup there is also one line dedicated to a manual flexible hose that you can use for drying out any e/r corners, if necessary.
That's also a nice feature, which I don't see in your manifold, if I read correctly the labels.
Though I must say that on balance, I'd rather have a backup of grey and black tanks! :encouragement:
Bouba
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Good tip, thanks. I’ve passed on your advice about the pump to someone who might need it:encouragement:
scubaman
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Just a quick note from the airport.
Went on Thursday and Friday. Very nice event made even more enjoyable by the perfect weather. We got to see all the boats we wanted and had a great time.
One boat we saw, and which has been mentioned already in this thread, was the brand new Fairline Targa 43. Very spacious with a cockpit that seems to work very well. Lovely interior and a great feeling on quality. Slightly small bathing platform by today’s standards perhaps and engine access for daily checks is quite restricted, unless I’m mistaken. A very nice package all the same.
I hope I got the price list wrong but if I read correctly, the demo boat with 180k£ worth of extras was closer to a 1£m including taxes.
That’s a lot for a boat of this size.
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Yup thats right. I have never used it to empty the grey or black water tanks or the forward bilges but I guess it must work otherwise Ferretti wouldnt have gone to the expense of fitting it
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£1m for a 43ft sports cruiser? Youre kidding
MapisM
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Yeah, I also guess so. My comment was just because in my setup the pump is much more fwd (opposite bulkhead of the e/r), with the manifold in the crew quarters, just forward of the e/r. But in spite of that, the hoses routing is pretty complicated anyway.
Actually, part of the complication comes from the fact that before the manifold, I've also got an "L-port" 3 ways valve, to select either the centralized diaphragm pump OR the raw water intake of one engine, as a mean to pump out water.
IIRC, also in Ferrettis you can use engines in the same way, but both can "only" suck water from the e/r bilge.
Anyway. My previous boat had nowhere near this level of redundancy, but she's still afloat after 22 years, and she just completed a smooth circumnavigation of Sardinia.
So, I really hope to never have to fiddle with all those valves, for anything else than periodical checks...
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The multipurpose pump itself is at the forward end of the engine room next to the other pumps. The reason I guess why the manifold is situated at the aft end of the engine room is to give the shortest possible suction pipe to the engine room bilge because water ingress into the engine room is the time when you are going to need the multipurpose pump the most!
MapisM
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Interesting comment.
Do you mean that in your boat the rear side of the e/r sits lower in the water than the forward end (when static, I mean)?
In my boat it's the opposite, as it normally happens with variable deadrise hulls.
I would have sworn that also in Ferretti hulls the deadrise ain't constant, but maybe I'm wrong...
Do you mean that in your boat the rear side of the e/r sits lower in the water than the forward end (when static, I mean)?
In my boat it's the opposite, as it normally happens with variable deadrise hulls.
I would have sworn that also in Ferretti hulls the deadrise ain't constant, but maybe I'm wrong...
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Well more water collects at the aft end of the engine room even when static and thats where the bilge pumps are located as well as the multipurpose pump suction pick up and the emergency engine suction pick ups as well. No, Ferretti hulls are not constant deadrise but the topsides are deeper further aft so the bottom of the hull is lower aft than forward
MapisM
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If you mean that the CHINES sit progressively lower in the water in the aft hull sections, that's true also of my boat - as well as any other P boats, afaik.
But my understanding is that whether the KEEL bottom is constantly going "downhill" from bow to stern, rather than downhill first (as the bow keel enters in the water), up to roughly mid of the hull, and then uphill in the stern section, that mostly depends on how much variable the deadrise is - on top of weight distribution of course, but I was reasoning AOTBE.
Anyway, I'm not talking of night and day differences, mind.
In my e/r, the bilge bottom sits just a couple of cm lower at the front than at the back - if that...
But my understanding is that whether the KEEL bottom is constantly going "downhill" from bow to stern, rather than downhill first (as the bow keel enters in the water), up to roughly mid of the hull, and then uphill in the stern section, that mostly depends on how much variable the deadrise is - on top of weight distribution of course, but I was reasoning AOTBE.
Anyway, I'm not talking of night and day differences, mind.
In my e/r, the bilge bottom sits just a couple of cm lower at the front than at the back - if that...
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To be honest its not something I've taken particular notice of. Yes I have seen some planing hulls which go uphill quite markedly at the stern but Ferrettis seem quite level from bow to stern