Camping Dinghies

Scimitar. haven't you been almost there before? Squib has a fin keel as well.

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JumbleDuck said:
What about a Squib? Heavy, open and designed by Oliver Lee. What's not to like?
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Great boats, the Hunter 19 & later Europa uses the same hull & often referred to as a "Squib with a lid"

The only downside for you maybe the fixed keel, about 3ft draft, but this does give more room in the cockpit with no centreboard box.
 
Sandgrounder said:
JD, thanks for this it is exactly the sort of information I was looking for and confirms what I had thought. Probably the right boat for me but agree about silly prices.
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My son bought a Cornish Cormorant last summer which allows for camping but at about 13' is probably a bit small for you. Lovely boat though.
 
Lakey,

You are right, I am increasingly attracted to shallow water sailing a la Dylan, and these wouldn't allow that. The Squib has a fantastic reputation and I'm intrigued by the Scimitar because there was one at the last club I was a member of. The owner kept it on a drying mooring, they all were, with a sort of scaffolding frame around it; how he ever got it out to sail I don't know.
 
New Mk 4 Wayfarer has lots more usable internal space but you are faced with the balance of the compromises large = (usually) more space = more weight. Sea going stability will be another question and not necessarily dependant on size but keel weight (if it has any!).

At my club there is a big fleet of cornish crabbers and many ex-Wayfarer sailors have moved up to them others have gone for bigger cruisers as in our case now with 43'!
 
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How about a Kinsman ? lift keel - the fin keel was the Yeoman - and a tasty boat, two at my club now on soft mud moorings.

http://www.ykboats.co.uk/Ykboats.htm

Also the Hunter Tracer which was like a slightly smaller Squib with a lift keel; rare but they gave one away at my club a while ago !



If feeling rich there's always Terry Heards' Falmouth Working Boats or the Memory 19;

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The Kinsman is definitely on the list. Suitability depends on the ability to use the space below the fordeck. The last one I saw, 14 years ago now, had had the entire area glassed in as buoyancy. That would limit what I could do with it.
The Hunter I will have to investigate.
It's going to be a hard life sifting all these boat particulars!

Seajet said:
How about a Kinsman ? lift keel - the fin keel was the Yeoman - and a tasty boat, two at my club now on soft mud moorings.

http://www.ykboats.co.uk/Ykboats.htm

Also the Hunter Tracer which was like a slightly smaller Squib with a lift keel; rare but they gave one away at my club a while ago !
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Sandgrounder said:
The Kinsman is definitely on the list. Suitability depends on the ability to use the space below the fordeck. The last one I saw, 14 years ago now, had had the entire area glassed in as buoyancy. That would limit what I could do with it.
The Hunter I will have to investigate.
It's going to be a hard life sifting all these boat particulars!
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Next time I'm at the club - Saturday ? - I'll try to get some pics and chat with the owner of a Kinsman and report back.

I took pics of the Tracer but as Oliver Lee designs are visions of such loveliness it burnt out my camera chip; really !

I'll see if I can recover anything, meanwhile if you go to the dark toolbar above this page, on ' Community ' there is a page dedicted to ' The Genius Of Oliver Lee ' by Little Rascal, a Europa owner.

The kinsman looks a good bet to me, there was one next to my boat last winter which is kept toothbrush-immaculate by her owner.

First thing I'd check though is about self draining cockpits; covers don't last long even in our ' Southern Softy ' gales.
 
Sailfree said:
New Mk 4 Wayfarer has lots more usable internal space but you are faced with the balance of the compromises large = (usually) more space = more weight. Sea going stability will be another question and not necessarily dependant on size but keel weight (if it has any!).

At my club there is a big fleet of cornish crabbers and many ex-Wayfarer sailors have moved up to them others have gone for bigger cruisers as in our case now with 43'!
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I think the older Wayfarers, the ones with floorboards, are better for cruising. The new ones have solid floor and getting them dry for a night under canvas is harder than the older ones where a little water slopping about in the bilge is not a problem. Also the stern locker is a great place to store an outboard.
 
Lakesailor said:
It's 3 times more than I am happy paying. But Drascombes have silly values.
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I've seen three Longboat Cruisers (the first cabin version) for sale on eBay recently. All looked fine, had good trailers and were ~ £5,000. Yes, I know the OP doesn't want a cabin or a Drascombe, but for anyone who doesn't mind these things, £5k for a cruiser seems bloody good value to me.
 
I didn't know till today, that Drascombes are still being built. Granted they're never cheap, but I thought a brand new Lugger would cost more than £14,000.

Lighter than I'd have expected, as well - the 18ft 9inch Lugger is 384kg.
 
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