Calor has change of heart on small cylinders

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I can't understand why all new boats are not designed to accommodate the 6/7kg bottles. I saw Solaris yachts at Dusseldorf a few years ago and ma ny of their boats only accommodate 907's
 

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I can't understand why all new boats are not designed to accommodate the 6/7kg bottles. I saw Solaris yachts at Dusseldorf a few years ago and ma ny of their boats only accommodate 907's
On the mainland Camping Gaz 907s is common. I don't think Calor sell on the mainland. The UK is a very small market for new boats.
 

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A big consideration for many is that they dont like having their trousers down and being shafted. Me included.

20-25 Quid is what Calor charge for a butane or propane small bottle refill.

With a Camping Gaz exchange you get half the gas for twice the price.

I shall get a big Calor cylinder, talk to my mate Bob, a refrigeration specialist, who is well on top of Gas Exchanges, having designed and Patented machinery to do just that during the production of vertical refrigerated cabinets for supermarket use. I shall refill my own.

With a few connectors and pipe I am sure it wont be a problem. It is not rocket science after all.

In NZ a 9 kilo refill is 40 dollars - about 20 quid. Half the UK price.
 

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At home, we have a Calor Gas domestic LPG tank that takes 1200 litres. Even after the latest price increase, it's 52 pence a litre. So (if I was able) to refill a boat's 6/7kg bottle from that, it would cost me less than £4 to do so.

Does it make any difference to a boat's gas cooker whether it runs on butane or propane?
 

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Any advice on what connectors and pipe to use in a safe manner (and not blow ourselves up) would be much appreciated! :)

You tube is your friend!

Ebay has two or three private punters offering refilled Calor bottles. It is obvious they are doing it at home.

When I have spoken to my mate Bob, got the gear and filled a couple I shall report on here.
 

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At home, we have a Calor Gas domestic LPG tank that takes 1200 litres. Even after the latest price increase, it's 52 pence a litre. So (if I was able) to refill a boat's 6/7kg bottle from that, it would cost me less than £4 to do so.

Does it make any difference to a boat's gas cooker whether it runs on butane or propane?

I dont believe so. Camping Gaz is apparently a mixture of both.

I changed from Butane to Propane on a previous boat, no noticable difference at all.
 

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I've run the cooker on my old boat on both, just changing the regulator as needed. You still get some gas out of a propane bottle, even when it's bitterly cold, but you got more weight of gas (=cooking time) out of a butane bottle, because it's more dense.
 

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I have just been into our local Calor agent, Didcot Calor and Paving, a supplier I have used for thirty years. The owner has a Freeman motorboat on the Thames and is in the same boat - terrible pun - as many on here.

He will not be able to supply 3.9's or 4.5's in the future.

The Calor website says you must make an appointment at a Calor Distribution centre to exchange a 3.9 or 4.5.

These Distribution Centres are few and far between.

He will exhange my empty 3.9 for a 13 kilo propane though.

That will start me off into filling my own bottles.

As an aside, First Mate and I visited the local recycling centre today. After disposing of some rubbish I spoke to an employee re the possibility of a small Flogas cylinder. He said he could not help but thought someone had left a gas cylinder near the waste oil tank. "Keep yer 'ead down, 'ave it away and get on yer bike!" he suggested.

I did so and found it was a full Camping Gaz 907.

Result!
 

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A big consideration for many is that they dont like having their trousers down and being shafted. Me included.

20-25 Quid is what Calor charge for a butane or propane small bottle refill.

With a Camping Gaz exchange you get half the gas for twice the price.

I shall get a big Calor cylinder, talk to my mate Bob, a refrigeration specialist, who is well on top of Gas Exchanges, having designed and Patented machinery to do just that during the production of vertical refrigerated cabinets for supermarket use. I shall refill my own.

With a few connectors and pipe I am sure it wont be a problem. It is not rocket science after all.

In NZ a 9 kilo refill is 40 dollars - about 20 quid. Half the UK price.
Exactly what I’m doing, just going to keep the small cylinder clean and tidy
 

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Any advice on what connectors and pipe to use in a safe manner (and not blow ourselves up) would be much appreciated! :)
Easy done using high pressure pig tails and a connector. I had to remove the non return valve in one of the clip on valves, pressure are low just weigh the filling cylinder during the process. It takes about 20 minutes so not easy to overshoot as it gets slower as you get nearly done as the pressure’s equalise
 
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