Calor gas to Camping Gaz

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Hi,

Last year I moved my boat from the U.K. to Portugal, so needed to convert from Calor Gas to Camping Gaz. To do that I used the following

Camping Gaz Adaptor

Since we have started using Camping Gaz it’s my impression that the gas cooker is less effective, e.g. the oven takes longer to come up to temperature.

my questions are
a) Should I have changed the regulator rather than just use an adaptor ?
b) If I want to be able to switch backwards and forwards between Calor Gas and Camping Gaz do I need a duel fuel regulator ?

Thanks
 
This is typical.

To effect a proper full change - needs not only reguiator for respective gas type - but also the burner jets in the cooker itself.

Nowadays most regulators are dual purpose ..... I seem to recall colour of regulator denotes its gas type ...

I have the typical Calor cooker on my UK built yacht here in Latvia. You cannot get Butane on its own here - its a Propane blend and I have exactly the same results.

Even the Hob in my house has a lower flame due to the Propane - that has the proper jets fitted.

I live with it ... still provides my daily sustenance !! ;)
 
Hi,

Last year I moved my boat from the U.K. to Portugal, so needed to convert from Calor Gas to Camping Gaz. To do that I used the following

Camping Gaz Adaptor

Since we have started using Camping Gaz it’s my impression that the gas cooker is less effective, e.g. the oven takes longer to come up to temperature.

my questions are
a) Should I have changed the regulator rather than just use an adaptor ?
b) If I want to be able to switch backwards and forwards between Calor Gas and Camping Gaz do I need a duel fuel regulator ?

Thanks

Assuming you were using Calor butane , not propane:

1 ...... No Camping Gas is butane ,,, the same regulator is required for Camping Gaz as for Calor butane

2 ...... No, not for swapping between Camping Gaz and butane ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you only need the dual fuel regulator if you want to swap between butane/ Camping Gaz and propane

Gas bottle regulators have a limited life... It is usually recommended that they are replaced every 10 years ... but everyone knows they usually last a lot longer.

If you do decide to fit a new regulator then consider a dual fuel marine regulator ( Annexe M) then propane becomes an option provided your cooker is suitable
 
We switched from CampingGaz to Calor Propane in our previous boat, doing it correctly with the installation of a good quality dual-fuel regulator. I would agree that the heat output of the cooker is a little less - in the summer - this is compensated (in the UK, at least) by the fact that you continue to get heat output on a day like today with a significant frost on the ground!

If you want a good solution with flexibility to burn anything you can buy around the world, talk to Will Hayward at GasBoat (WHayward Marine Gas Systems | GasBoat | Go anywhere Gas Regulatos) - he understands the problem well and has all the components you'll need to do it properly. He will sell you the individual components to meet your specific requirements or sell you a kit of parts that will allow you to connect just about any cylinder on sale anywhere in the world - though that level of flexibility does come at a significant price!
 
54/5 years ago I built an extension on the Calor gas works at Shell Haven. They filled Calor bottles & Camping Gaz bottles in the same shed ( I extended it) from the same main tank at the same pressures etc. It was just the actual connector to the bottle that differed.
So I would suggest that the bottle pressure is still the same. The gas is certainly identical. If the regulators are set at different pressure, then that would explain the need for different jets. I seem to recall that I used to fiddle with the old Calor regulator pressures by turning the screw above the spring, but was never really successful. I am not sure that they can be adjusted now.
Things may have changed over 50 years.

For those into H & S & conservation they had to empty the bottles prior to re filling as some were sent back part filled. They had a tank to which they connected the bottle & it drew off the gas.
However, the men were on a price so for the Gaz bottles they had a handle with a sort of fork & a point in the end. This they inserted in the bottle & pulled up on the handle thus releasing the gas in a great cloud of white fumes on to the floor.
This obviously was highly inflammable & they had great delight in chasing me round, spraying my legs when I first walked in.
I had to use rubber hammers to avoid sparks because the shed always had 18 inches of gas across the floor. I recall cutting holes in the floor, covered in the gas, whilst holding my head up clear of the gas to avoid breathing it in.
The new shed was built with an open bottom 2 ft up so that this gas could flow out & down to the stream 20 yds away & then along between the banks .
The H & S boys & the Green party would have a field day now.
 
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